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| WHO WILL BE PRESIDENT??? |
| T PAPADOPULOUS |
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26% |
[ 7 ] |
| CHRISTOFIAS |
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38% |
[ 10 ] |
| KASOULIDES |
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26% |
[ 7 ] |
| NONE OF THE ABOVE |
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7% |
[ 2 ] |
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repulsewarrior
Deputy

Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1973 Location: Canada
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| it was my gut impression from the start, although i thought that TPap would not run for reelection, and i am not very knowledgeable about the whole political scene. but a split down the middle will leave the opening Kasoulides will need to win, in the second round. |
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cypezokyli
Ministerial

Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2344
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according to the latest polls hristofias seems to be winning.
two more polls will be revealed in the next two days.... we ll see |
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Chapfallen Warnings : 7 Senior Villager

Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 464
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The polls means nothing or means something when those that claming that will vote Papadopoulos are sure for their vote only in a percentage of 75% where if only a 10% from the rest 25% (that are DISI and AKEL supporters) will not vote him, Papadopoulos will drop from his 32.5% 3-points and down from the 30%
The polls can’t and never predicted DISI percentage because of two factors, first is the students that will come to vote and they are not counted on the polls that the vast majority of them are DISI supporters. And second it’s proved what in the end the traditional voters of DISI can’t trait their party in such elections (like it’s proved in the two previous elections for the municipalities and Europe parliament).
Of course there is still some possibility for TPap to go to the second round but in the percentage that the polls counting there is also AKEL voters that I do not believe what there will be more than 2% from them will vote him in any case and there is more possibility to earn more points from DISI because there are a lot of right wingers lunatics.
As about what will happen in the second round it’s easy to understand what if DIKO do what was always doing and support a right winger the situation will come around and the polls will fail for another one time.
One other important thing from the polls is what TPap biggest percentage is from the 3rd age above 65 years that they lost their interest for life and that they voting Makarios ghost. In the end many of them will not vote (some of them will die ) some of them will be leaded from their children’s to reason and to their parties and this is one of the many reasons that drive me to believe what TPap can’t go above 31% and what he can go for less that 30% |
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cypezokyli
Ministerial

Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2344
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the question is not what DIKO would do in the second round.... we all know...
the question is, what will AKEL or DYSI do in case they fail to pass in the second round. to ne honest i trust neither of the two that they are ready to take the big decision. |
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Chapfallen Warnings : 7 Senior Villager

Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 464
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AKEL had always putting above everything their party, DISI had proved in the referendum what above everything is the country and they did risk once to destroy their party with the yes vote and they will do it again. There is not one in a million to officially support TPap but there is a case where they will not officially support any of them but in any case if they will not go to the second round they will work officially or unofficially to elect Christofias.
In the case where TPap will go to the second round with Kasoulides I’m afraid what TPap will win the elections and Cyprus will loose for good any chances may still have for a solution and in some years we will have to get used to the idea what we are living in a Turkish province by our choice. |
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stavrizatz
Mukhtar/is

Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 952 Location: Australia / Lefkosia
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I urge all Cypriots not to vote for Tpap
Personally I'll vote for Christofias for a difference but Kasoulides is not bad.
If Papadopoulos goes to the second round then there will be many dummy votes. |
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Chapfallen Warnings : 7 Senior Villager

Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 464
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Everyone that will vote Papadopoulos is either old with no interest for life and lost brains, either simple or complete ignorant idiot or in the best case axristos malakas where that include the racists and the axristous malakes of every kind.
There is not one serious person that will vote this bustard. And there is not one (from them that will stay alive to see result) that will not regret about a vote on this piece of shit and this will be the good side if this asshole will manage to exploit again the Darwin mistakes to reelect. |
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Chapfallen Warnings : 7 Senior Villager

Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 464
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Now he is bullshittng the Darwin mistakes what he will throw out the British bases (after he lick the hand of the UK Queen, he is a well known mason from the British loft’s) and if I didn’t care for the feature of this country I would really glad to see all the idiots that vote him after he will humiliate them for once more. He is pretending the bully inside and when he goes out of Cyprus he is sucking every dick available.
If he had any interest for Cyprus he was never going to vote the justification of the occupation while he was hidden behind his “patriotic” act about the rejection of the plan, where he is still hidden in every possible way behind this bullshit to make every crime possible (like in the known economic scandals).
But even if he is just a sick person that somewhere there in his sick brains he has some interest about Cyprus he can’t do a shit with the bases and I have already bet my balls on this and I will do it again and I’ll be glad to see all the stupid faces of those idiots that will vote him because he is bully and because they think what by being a mental sick, fraud, liar, humiliated asshole you can actually have some result in the foreign relations. |
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moonskin
Mukhtar/is

Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 529
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| cypezokyli wrote: |
according to the latest polls hristofias seems to be winning.
two more polls will be revealed in the next two days.... we ll see |
Thanks for the news cypez. I think I have also read about this in the Turkish Cypriot press, but just to be clear on it, is this the result that says #1 Tassos Papadopoulos #2 Dimitris Christofias for the first round and the converse for the second round?
Please do let us know about the coming polls as well.
However, contrary to the general anticipation by the Turkish Cypriots, I have doubts about the possible implications of the results of this election. What I mean is that, since the Turkish Cypriot side (politicians, press, people, etc.) has been dealing with Papadopoulos in such a way that as if he is the primary reason for everything involved with the Cyprus problem, this has now automatically created a feeling over the people that if he goes away, then everything will be resolved. A similar disappointing situation we had with Denktas. He left the office but to the surprise of many in the north, nothing fundamental has changed! Nowadays, many Turkish Cypriots are feeling the disappointment of this situation.
The problem with this feeling in the current situation is that, if Christofias is elected and we still don't have a movement towards any solution, than what will we think? How would we feel? Well, it seems to me that in such a situation, two communities will be pushed apart from each other, this time more than the results of the AP referendum pushed us apart. In other words, it could be catastrophic for our future.
The thing is, all we (Turkish Cypriots) hear is that Papadopoulos is the guy preventing any progress. This might be true or wrong or perhaps neither of them actually wants any progress to be made at this point in time. It's impossible to do any better than just choosing between these alternatives based on how we want to see the situation. But if we assume that Talat is true in his words, we still don't know how much he will be able to or willing to negotiate with the (assuming that there will be one) new president who is serious about any progress, i.e. Talat needs to be tested on this matter. In other words, this (extremely boring) blame game could be going on forever. Hence, my conclusion in the above paragraph.
I used to think that Talat is honest about his willingness to devote himself for a period of solution but now I am not so sure about it anymore. Especially when the fact that CTP has no friends in Turkey apart from AKP has been considered, this leaves no room for any political maneuvering for a path towards a solution which might be needed since there seems to be a hardening of the policies of Erdogan-AKP towards the Cyprus problem.
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repulsewarrior
Deputy

Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1973 Location: Canada
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I believe now that Denktash spoke as a Cypriot first, as well as a Turcophone. I believed that Talat would be the breath of fresh air that would represent the turcophone population as Cypriots. But not anymore. Talat in my mind is a Turcophone first, and any talks will stall because of his attachment to Turkey (and the deep State).
Whoever leads us, be it a "Greek" or a "Turk" will need to be open for a radical shift in thinking, which places us as people, firstly as members of a larger family of Mankind, and as Cypriots, this island's dwellers above the Nationalistic prattle
that assures elections are won or lost.
Having divided us, and having kept us isolated from each other for so many years, serves the interests of interlocutors, leaving us subject to their will. This is not natural, as evidenced by the fact that Turkey's occcupation is illegal, and therefore (i hope) cannot sustain itself.
Frankly, TPap has the most to give toward a solution because he is the eldest statesman in this affair. An epifany is needed, and a partner who wishes change as well. |
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pg
Deputy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 1485 Location: Cyprus
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Here are some new poll results:
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=36168&cat_id=1
Another poll was presented last night by Mega TV, and made by RAI. In summary, it showed a first round with:
31% Papadopoulos
29% Christofias
27% Kasoulides
In the second round between the two top candidates they showed 40% each for Papadopoulos and Christofias.
There was two other interesting facts: That while 70% has decided who they will vote for, 30% has not deciced yet or say they might change their mind.
Also, looking at age groups, Papadopoulos has particularly strong support among voters older than 55 years old.
I would like to add that in the last couple of elections DISY (Kassoulides) has ended up with results a lot higher than what polls had shown - and people say this is due to all overseas students that come back just to vote.
Anything can happen..., especially considering this from the latest coffeeshop:
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| Once the arse-licker voters sense the Ethnarch is not a certain winner they will most certainly show less loyalty than rats leaving a sinking ship. The only one who might stay is George Lilickass, only because no other candidate will want him. |
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=36122&archive=1 |
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moonskin
Mukhtar/is

Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 529
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| repulsewarrior wrote: |
I believe now that Denktash spoke as a Cypriot first, as well as a Turcophone. I believed that Talat would be the breath of fresh air that would represent the turcophone population as Cypriots. But not anymore. Talat in my mind is a Turcophone first, and any talks will stall because of his attachment to Turkey (and the deep State).
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I am very sorry RW, but I am curious whether you actually know what the hell you are talking about? You believe now that Denktash spoke as a Cypriot? Well the problem with this statement is that Denktas has always refused the existence of anything as Cypriot, except the inhabitants of Karpaz peninsula, who are not human beings by the way...
I was not actually talking about "Talat's attachment to Turkey via deep state" but only the fact that he simply might not be allowed to achieve what he wants to achieve. Whereas by his dishonesty, I actually meant something entirely different. I have to say this to you and to all the other Greek Cypriots who are reading and everybody else:
Turkey has very serious problems with democracy, the military involvement in the political processes is unacceptable, the law system has very serious defects -in the form of written laws and in the application of many other laws, and I can make this list grow so much that you will fall asleep while you are reading it. HOWEVER, none of the listed facts in this list allows you to claim anything you want, almost arbitrarily, that suddenly appears in your head just because you want to support your argument!
RW, can you please tell me what do you know about the deep state? Yes, it does exist, I am not asking you whether it exists or not, but since you claimed that Talat has a connection with it, you must know so much about it! I am surprised because I am a person who reads a lot about the political dynamics of Turkey and also a person who follows very closely as to what is currently going on in Turkish political life and the very complex interconnections it has, but I have so far failed to find a single evidence that justifies this claim of Talat-deep state connection! So I naturally wonder, whether you can direct me to any resources on this or not?
Please RW, don't take this personal. But I think that people should be more careful when they build their arguments, if they actually want to be taken serious and earn the respect of the others. And you are certainly not the only one who is failing in this respect! |
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moonskin
Mukhtar/is

Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 529
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| Cyprus Mail wrote: |
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moonskin
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Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 529
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please remove this post and the next two as well...multiple posts due to bad internet connection...sorry...
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moonskin
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