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depurple
Warnings : 1
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Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 2880
Location: Australia
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Hey we have all sidetracked a bit boys!
We are talking about images for the Cyprus: EURO
My first choice!
1: Mouflon!
2: Teke at Lanaca!
3: Aphrodite!
4: King Richards Castle:
5: Stavrovouni Monastery!
2nd Choice:
1: Grivas and his Greek Flag and his guns:(He didn't get paid he did it for the love of the motherland!)
2: Denktash and his Turkish Flag and his bank accounts!
3: Makarios and his Religious Flag (The 2 headed Eagle!) and his bank accounts!
4: Clerides and No Flags he did it for his and his friends bank accounts!
5: Samson with his USA/CIA Flag! and his bank accounts! (PS and that vibrator that he always held in his hands every-time he was interviewed? Crazy man!)
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erolz
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Joined: 11 Aug 2005
Posts: 4211
Location: Kyrenia / Girne
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| Dream_Merchant wrote: |
| For it is not free will that I oppose, but the unrestricted freedom by which you wish to vindicate and glorify the crimes of Turkey and the unrestricted freedom by which you wish to warp truth to perpetuate the reign of terror that you have imposed and continue to do so on others. |
So how would you like to such freedom restricted ?
Do you have any comment on TP's reported warping of the truth here
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?section=exclusiveinterview&xfile=data/exclusiveinterview/2004/september/exclusiveinterview_september2.xml
Or is it only alledged warping of the truth by 'Turks' than in your view needs restricting ?
| Dream_Merchant wrote: |
And yes, one may perceive it as a form of intolerance, for it is an intolerance, an intolerance towards harbingers of lies, glorifiers of murderers, rapists and other criminals and pursuers of injustice. |
I have to wonder how much intolerance you showed or would have shown in the past to those Greek Cypriot's that were (and some remain) themselves harbringers of lies, glorifiers of murderes, rapists and other criminals and pursuers of injustice ?
I have a final question, for now, for you DM. There has been a very recent marked increase in the volume of your post and in my percpetion at least also the vitrol contained within that increased volume. Is there any conection between this behaviour here on your part and the way the up comming Republic of Cyprus presidential elections are developing with AKEL standing against TP and an apparent fall in support for TP as a result do you think ? |
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brother
Warnings : 3
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Joined: 15 Aug 2005
Posts: 8938
Location: London/Cyprus
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| Dream_Merchant wrote: |
I don't understand whats wrong with my signature. You keep picking on the man, but you fail to understand that I did not pick those words because of the man. Anyone could have said them. The reason I have chosen them is because they highlight my own convictions, that Turkey can not be trusted and that we must do our outmost to safeguard whatever is left of the Republic of Cyprus and everything it stands for.
You call me racist, but you do not realize what is a racist. A racist is someone that for no good reason discriminates against a particular race or considers itself superior to all others. I have repeatedly outlined several good reasons why I consider Turks and Turkey with the negative qualities that I referred in my post above.
And allow me a small caveat, which will prove without the shadow of a doubt that I do not have racist tendencies. I do not judge people on their race or nationality, but on their personal convictions. Hence I approach every Individual as such, regardless of their race or cultural background. In this manner I have befriended many people from a vast spectrum of cultures and upbringings who espouse a wide range of views and opinions, but none that contradict with the basic understanding of ethics. And as such I do not judge an individual because he is a Turk. On the contrary to me it does not matter if you are a Turk, if you are British, or if you are Greek, or whatever nationality you may be. It only matter what you believe in and what you do.
Having said that however, I do consider that most Turks, and that includes every single last one of you without exception that I have met in this specific forum, belong to either of the two groups I highlighted in my previous post. Hence you become the target of the scorn and indignation towards the regime and ideology you invariably support.
You may consider this as an 'intolerance to another's free will', but I assure you it is nothing like of that nature. For it is not free will that I oppose, but the unrestricted freedom by which you wish to vindicate and glorify the crimes of Turkey and the unrestricted freedom by which you wish to warp truth to perpetuate the reign of terror that you have imposed and continue to do so on others. And yes, one may perceive it as a form of intolerance, for it is an intolerance, an intolerance towards harbingers of lies, glorifiers of murderers, rapists and other criminals and pursuers of injustice. |
While i acknowledge what you are saying it is the WAY you say it that is counter productive in the discussions and debates we have, if i as a Turkish Cypriot from the village of Tochni was to refer to the Greek Cypriot as barberous, muderous and mindless animals (similar to the way you refer to turks) everytime i saw something negative due to the atrocities they committed in my village i would firstly be tarring the entire race of Greek Cypriot and secondly i would be getting the backs up of the many decent Greek Cypriot that are worthy of talking and befriending and also i would never be able to set the scenario for us to reconcile because deep down i would be harbouring a racist like hatred of them, if i can forgive and move forward when i was directly affected by the atrocities of EOKA then WHO are you to think you have the right to slander an entire race because of the current situation that was the making of your own leaders back in the time who also happens to be the same leader in our present time.
DM i know you feel angry but first i want to ask you a question after i set the scenario and would you kindly answer.
The island is partitioned and around 150,000 Greek Cypriot cannot return to their homes for 33 years which is wrong but at least they are in the south free and able to work and in relative safety now lets go to 1963-1974 the Turkish Cypriot are forced into ghetto like enclaves and are refused work, economical advancement, the basics of life like decent food, medical supplies etc. forced from their homes which have been knocked or burnt down and now living in 3% of the island in tents for 11 YEARS with the Greek Cypriot national guard surrounding them, in the meantime EOKA has destroyed over 150 mosques around the island in a bid to wipe any trace of muslims or turks and any Turkish Cypriot that are not in the ghettos live in fear of EOKA and end up being forced to leave the island due to the economical hardships and fear for their lives created by the greek/Greek Cypriot extremists that are rife on the island, at the same time you have Greece in that period who have amassed 20,000 soilders onto the island illegally, and if that was not enough then the junta decided to just eliminate them after they ousted makarious, can you honestly say hand on heart that if you was in the Turkish Cypriot predicament you would not have been happy to see an army take you to your own safe haven and partition the island??????? |
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