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Get Real!
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Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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Location: Nicosia
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| Mete wrote: |
| I urge you to try to reclaim your land if you think you're strong enough and we'll teach you another lesson that you won't forget for another 50 years. |
Now that you’ve traveled all the way to Boston no doubt you would’ve tasted a McDonald’s burger and hopefully noticed that there’s a sesame seed bun at the top, a smaller plain bun at the bottom, and a little piece of meat right in the middle.
Contemplate this the next time you’re enjoying a burger… |
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Get Real!
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Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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Location: Nicosia
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What will it take for Turkey to understand?
1000 Turks dead?, 20 thousand?, 300 thousand?, 1 million maybe? Will that be enough for Turkey to understand that they are NOT welcome here? Just give us the number because whatever it is we will find the way in 2, 5, 10, or 20 years to achieve it. Even if it takes a nuclear warhead one day to bring about this liberation it simply HAS TO BE DONE because they are NOT welcome in Cyprus and you’d better believe it.
I tell you this from the bottom of my heart and on behalf of all true Cypriots.
Over and out. (for now) |
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erolz
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Location: Kyrenia / Girne
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| Get Real! wrote: |
What will it take for Turkey to understand?
Will that be enough for Turkey to understand that they are NOT welcome here? Just give us the number because whatever it is we will find the way in 2, 5, 10, or 20 years to achieve it. Even if it takes a nuclear warhead one day to bring about this liberation it simply HAS TO BE DONE because they are NOT welcome in Cyprus and you’d better believe it. |
Just who is it that is not welcome here ? Are you including those Turkish Cypriot that do not want to be forced to 'assimilate and integrate' into a GREEK culture (not a cypriot one)? Are you asking how many Turks must you kill before these 'turks' realise they are not welcome in Cyprus - their own (shared) homeland?
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I tell you this from the bottom of my heart and on behalf of all true Cypriots. |
And I say from the bottom of my heart that to me you are not a true Cypriot at all but a true enemy of Cyprus. |
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stavrizatz
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Joined: 20 Feb 2006
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Location: Australia / Lefkosia
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GR I am trying to understand where you are getting at. I am not a pacifist either but an armed conflict should be used as a last resource to resolve the issues after all peaceful means are excausted.
If Cyprus was more powerful than Turkey and Turkey had no intention to withdraw from the island then I can understand why Cypriots (Greek) will want to go to war. However: 1. Cyprus even with the assistance of Greece does not have the power to force Turkey out, 2. all peaceful means are not yet excausted and we as Greek Cypriot can do more to achieve a peaceful settlement to our problem and 3. it is not a Greek Cypriot problem but a Cyprus problem, Turkish Cypriots suffered as well and even so in 74 they 've supported the Turkish Invasion we can still hope that one day they will admit that it was unecessary.
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| With an attitude like yours its no wonder that the CyProb can not be solved. There is no way to find a common ground with your fellow Cypriots if all you can think of is violence and bloodshed. No wonder so many Turkish Cypriots don't trust the Greek Cypriots..... |
City I don't think that is how it works. I can similarly argue that because of the very few Germans who still bear the ideas of Nazism, no Germans can be trusted! After all, GR is demonstrating his frustration on the nonsense arguments of some Turkish Cypriots in here and similarly Mete is reacting to that frustration with equally racist arguments.
Many Greek Cypriots in a similar tone of voice as Mete say "How can I trust Turkish Cypriots when they 've supported the 74 invasion" "how can I trust them with their stance they've showed the past 33 years" "how can we trust them looking of what they say in various webpages such as 'Greek Murderers' and 'actanews'.
How can you trust the 'enemy'? Those are the wounds we need to heal. |
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stavrizatz
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| See, you could say that if Erol or I fiercely supported the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (as you support war and bloodshed!) and if we rubbed in your face that Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus will live forever and you can kiss goodbye to your properties in the north |
Come on, ofcourse you do that... stop hiding behind your finger, why in the Ledra palace crossing you have slogans such as "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus forever"? I don't think it is because your realists, it is because you have the upper hand, you have the power and Greek Cypriots can do nothing but compromise on their human rights. |
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brother
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Joined: 15 Aug 2005
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Location: London/Cyprus
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| Get Real! wrote: |
What will it take for Turkey to understand?
1000 Turks dead?, 20 thousand?, 300 thousand?, 1 million maybe? Will that be enough for Turkey to understand that they are NOT welcome here? Just give us the number because whatever it is we will find the way in 2, 5, 10, or 20 years to achieve it. Even if it takes a nuclear warhead one day to bring about this liberation it simply HAS TO BE DONE because they are NOT welcome in Cyprus and you’d better believe it.
I tell you this from the bottom of my heart and on behalf of all true Cypriots.
Over and out. (for now) |
What a joker, i can't believe everyone has given the joker the time of day and tried to respond, reason etc.
You GR are the biggest joker in cyprus, no...in the world, its like when Saddam Hussein told his people they will crush the US and was eventually found hiding in a hole, i guess that is where we will find GR the joker hiding in the hole he dug for himself and probably his trousers full of his own s**t when the Turkish soilders ask him to get out of his hole and at least pretend to be a man, such a joker. |
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city
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| stavrizatz wrote: |
City wrote:
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| With an attitude like yours its no wonder that the CyProb can not be solved. There is no way to find a common ground with your fellow Cypriots if all you can think of is violence and bloodshed. No wonder so many Turkish Cypriots don't trust the Greek Cypriots..... |
City I don't think that is how it works. I can similarly argue that because of the very few Germans who still bear the ideas of Nazism, no Germans can be trusted! After all, GR is demonstrating his frustration on the nonsense arguments of some Turkish Cypriots in here and similarly Mete is reacting to that frustration with equally racist arguments.
Many Greek Cypriots in a similar tone of voice as Mete say "How can I trust Turkish Cypriots when they 've supported the 74 invasion" "how can I trust them with their stance they've showed the past 33 years" "how can we trust them looking of what they say in various webpages such as 'Greek Murderers' and 'actanews'.
How can you trust the 'enemy'? Those are the wounds we need to heal. |
I can see the point in your argument Stavri, but trust me - unfortunately its them few extremists (or however you may call them) that form other peoples opinion on a country. I've experienced it countless times when traveling abroad. Do you know how many times I was 'greated' with the Hitler salute and called a Nazi? Its how the world works - bad things make the headlines. The peaceful masses are not recognized and hence public opinion abroad judges by those few ones. Look at Iraq, Afghanistan or Palestine these days - or check the public opinion in the US about Arabs.
I know that this is wrong, but this is how most people tick. They hold on to their prejudices and believe what they are told by the media.
On a side note: the role of the media in forming such opinions is a different topic that deserves its own thread/discussion, that's why I am not starting on that one here.
What is desperately needed imo is that people meet each other and get to know each other - on an individual and daily basis. This way they will realize that not all of the 'other side' are bad and they will see that the extremists are the exceptions. I had to follow that road when I went to Israel - really not my first choice, being German I can ensure you. But it turned out very well in the end.
The same thing can be said (of course on a much lower level) about the reunification of Germany. You wouldn't believe how much mistrust and disinformation there was on both sides of the wall. But trough time and people mixing now in the whole of Germany this could be overcome.
But its a long and painful process and its still not finished here, even 18 years after the wall came down. |
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100%cypriot
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Joined: 27 Jun 2006
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stavrizatz , i don't agree with anyone just for the sake of it but this time i hold my hat to you the way you tell it like it is , to all the other members who have commented , TAKE NO NOTICE of gr , he is just another warped Nationalist , just like the south we have the same in the north , and like a mosquito that attacks its victim when that victim is sleeping , one day as CYPRIOTS we will crush this evil that has so sadly split our beautifull country ,
We Will Never Give Up |
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Location: a cypriot in canada
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| Get Real! wrote: |
What will it take for Turkey to understand?
1000 Turks dead?, 20 thousand?, 300 thousand?, 1 million maybe? Will that be enough for Turkey to understand that they are NOT welcome here? Just give us the number because whatever it is we will find the way in 2, 5, 10, or 20 years to achieve it. Even if it takes a nuclear warhead one day to bring about this liberation it simply HAS TO BE DONE because they are NOT welcome in Cyprus and you’d better believe it.
I tell you this from the bottom of my heart and on behalf of all true Cypriots.
Over and out. (for now) |
Ok...ok...so you take the warfront to their homeland, hell you even find a way to turn them to glass, big deal, all that hatred, generalised and focused on a stranger on the street...oh yea...oh yea thats dignity all right, that's grace, the rest of Mankind will have something to say about Cypriots.
Get Real, your sincerity will turn to burlesque, because we are not there yet. Are you making a prediction, or are you resolved to make it happen?
Is there nothing on your dreary horizon that gives these two peoples, as people a reason to agree, to choose to stand united, toward their own betterment, as well the betterment of Mankind's condition.
You want the Monkey off your back, unlike it, you must choose.
Cyprus is not Greek, most of the people living on it are of a Greek origin, popularly called Greek Cypriot. Cyprus belongs to no one, it belongs to the people who live on it, but mostly it belongs to those who love it, and care for it; it is not limited to any National affiliation, of which it has more than two.
so...yes, extend your hand, and hope that the other person will take it to embrace a future that will change the world as much as it will change you. |
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brother
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| I just wanted to mention that GR has not confined this pathetic thread to this forum only but has also posted it on another forum backed with other threads to entice hatred and spur on people and fill their hearts with hate and want the war he is trying to instigate, GR is a thouroughbred fascist and war monger and it is his like that caused what we now call the cyprus problem and as such are the WORST KIND OF ENEMY THAT CYPRUS HAS as he is like a cancer that attacks from within and tries its best to murder the whole to satisfy his bllod lust. |
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repulsewarrior
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brother you flatter GR, but if he is not real, as you say, an enemy, stay, calm, because things can get worse, just as we choose to work to make them better.
...thanks for the info, and get real!, you sure know how to stir up slop, but you will only get pigs to eat it, so we'll eat pork, but I hope that all this is for a compost that suits our growing needs. |
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100%cypriot
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| repulsewarrior wrote: |
brother you flatter GR, but if he is not real, as you say, an enemy, stay, calm, because things can get worse, just as we choose to work to make them better.
...thanks for the info, and get real!, you sure know how to stir up slop, but you will only get pigs to eat it, so we'll eat pork, but I hope that all this is for a compost that suits our growing needs. |
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