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cypezokyli
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journalistic information (thats the best we can get up to now) , claim that akel (the biggest cypriot party ) seriously considers the possibility of having for the first time in history its own candidate.
if this information has indeed some credibility , this could be an interesting scenario.... and it could give some hope...
lets wait and see... perhaps its not only turkish elections that will be exciting  |
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100%cypriot
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| I suppose ANYONE is better than T pap |
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Dhavlos
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Ive heard cypriots speaking about hte elections a few days ago, and didnt seem warm to christofias OR tpap!
But they were quite apatheitc, like in the Uk, 'who else is there to vote for'
They saw kasoulidis as a change or break from the current trend, which i think they thought was a good thing (they were speaking greek, and very fast so was hard to keep up! lol)
Buit they started arguing on which party would support who, and then most of them gave up except two...which was quite funny. |
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Bananiot
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No chance, cypezokyli. I bet my bottom dollar Christofias will not run for President. He is quite contended to let Papadopoulos run the country while he plays a key role in the most patriotic of all actions. The appointment of people to different posts.
The boy from Dikomo does not have the culture or the political clout which surfaces from a strong tradition to lead the people or to take revolutionary steps forward. Thus, he is led by the people (instead of leading the people) who have ears only for populists rhetoric and Christofias has turned into a master populist leader. |
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cypezokyli
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| Bananiot wrote: |
No chance, cypezokyli. I bet my bottom dollar Christofias will not run for President. He is quite contended to let Papadopoulos run the country while he plays a key role in the most patriotic of all actions. The appointment of people to different posts.
The boy from Dikomo does not have the culture or the political clout which surfaces from a strong tradition to lead the people or to take revolutionary steps forward. Thus, he is led by the people (instead of leading the people) who have ears only for populists rhetoric and Christofias has turned into a master populist leader. |
thats what i think as well. but...
if christofias runs for a president, it will not be because he has the political culture or because he cares about the cyppro. it will be bc he will calculate and reach the conclusion that he has more to loose by supporting tpap.
IF that happens it will be based on pure calculation of party interests.
no matter what the motives might be, a candidate from akel would be a positive development. |
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Get Real!
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| 100%cypriot wrote: |
| I suppose ANYONE is better than T pap |
Absolutely true if your primary concern is to preserve/promote the illegal Turkish military base on Cyprus by the name of "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus". |
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100%cypriot
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oh is Tpap your hero ?
what promises has he given you that he has kept ?
The illegal Turkish Military base as YOU call it , is also functioning to preserve the peace in cyprus and to prevent the 1960's from coming back , in which the Turkish Cypriot was allways considered a second class CYpriot by the dictating War lords who are still active in the south of Cyprus.
Kifeas is right ! you allways Talk Nonsense |
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pg
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Location: Cyprus
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| Bananiot wrote: |
No chance, cypezokyli. I bet my bottom dollar Christofias will not run for President. He is quite contended to let Papadopoulos run the country while he plays a key role in the most patriotic of all actions. The appointment of people to different posts.
The boy from Dikomo does not have the culture or the political clout which surfaces from a strong tradition to lead the people or to take revolutionary steps forward. Thus, he is led by the people (instead of leading the people) who have ears only for populists rhetoric and Christofias has turned into a master populist leader. |
thats what i think as well. but...
if christofias runs for a president, it will not be because he has the political culture or because he cares about the cyppro. it will be bc he will calculate and reach the conclusion that he has more to loose by supporting tpap.
IF that happens it will be based on pure calculation of party interests.
no matter what the motives might be, a candidate from akel would be a positive development. |
What possibly can happen is that the AKEL foot soldiers has reach the point that they no longer can accept Papadopoulos. If we reach that stage Christofias might have to choose between running himself - and I am not sure what he would do.
If AKEL starts talking about a candidate of their own it could go anywhere from Lillikas to Andreas Christou... Since they would want the DIKO votes it could be the worst one... |
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Get Real!
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| 100%cypriot wrote: |
| oh is Tpap your hero ? what promises has he given you that he has kept ? |
He promised to keep the “T.R.N.C” an illegal abbreviation.
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| The illegal Turkish Military base as YOU call it , is also functioning to preserve the peace in cyprus |
And to think I interpreted all those UN resolutions wrong all these years. I should learn to read more carefully!
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| ..and to prevent the 1960's from coming back , |
Well, I wasn’t much of a Beatles fan myself but who can refuse them purple velvet flares?
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| ..in which the Turkish Cypriot was allways considered a second class CYpriot by the dictating War lords who are still active in the south of Cyprus. |
So in which class have you been promoted to now in the “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus”? The “Mullah-Anatolian” or the “Embargoed-Econo” class?
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| Kifeas is right ! you allways Talk Nonsense |
Glad you found a friend but do read the instructions carefully about how to care for your pet Crock.  |
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repulsewarrior
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| ...and to prevent the 1960's from coming back... |
The sixties are a start, but to be honest, looking at our history as a whole, from the 60's onward, it has moments of brutality, and it has sorrow that has affected every living person involved (the diaspora), and living there. So, you can say that in this we must stand united, never forgetting the lives sacrificed for the exclusivity of our parts.
Look, there is this thing called social engineering. Whether Turcophone or Grecophone (or Polyphone for that matter) we live on an island. From subjugation, never mind Turkish (or British) rule, for thousands of years a crossroad for so many, mankind has stepped up to give us this priveledge, this right; call it the Republic of Cyprus.
"It" failed in 1960, for many reasons, but the intent of our global partners at the UN was to end this condition with our own State, so that we are free, sovereign over the land which we are stewards.
Not yet, I think, no new something, the old guard is holding sway, it seems, against this ideal. There are movements for Cypriot association, a united Cyprus if you will, and this is very encouraging because what is, cannot go on forever.
Honest, I thought TPap would resign...but I was wrong. Who will stand up for Cyprus, its three languages, and its bi-communal habitation? |
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stavrizatz
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| Whether Turcophone or Grecophone (or Polyphone for that matter) |
Hey, in Canada when they ask you what nationality (background) you are, what do you reply Grecophone, Greek or Cypriot? |
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Alexios
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I do not think Christofias will run for President, not for any other reason but the fact that he knows he simply cannot get that 50% plus 1 vote required to get elected.Otherwise he would have already announced his cadidacy.Let us suppose that he can get every single vote from AKEL supporters and further suppose that this 30% (which is not according to the latest surveys) He requires a minimum of 20%-22% from other parties.Given that DYKO will support the current President and most probably the other smaller parties as well, i really don't see how Christofias will manage to get that 20% or there about from DYSH, even in the case that Casoulides steps down.
In any event, only this morning the AKEL spokesman categorically stated that there no way AKEL will co-operate with DYSH in next year's elections.
I don't think that much of Christofias personally anyway.He is a demagogue of the worse type and to be honest he makes me laugh each time he opens his mouth to speak pretending to be a statesman...... |
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stavrizatz
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Bananiot
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He is also a coward. He will never accept to shoulder the huge burden of agreing to a solution with the Turkish Cypriots. This is because he lacks the moral and political culture that makes a leader that leads the people. He is led by the people and before he produces policy he reads the gallops that tap public opinion.
Klerides is the only statesman that came out of Cyprus and even in his very old age he still stands above all of the pseudo statesmen put together. |
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Dhavlos
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who do you guys think would win, realistically, if Casoulidis and tpap are the last two candidates (which i assume is the most likely outcome)?
Just interested |
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