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Mete
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| Dream_Merchant wrote: |
Then you get a F for maths.
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Oh OK, Math professor! You could have at least tried to explain your reasoning instead of simply saying things as if they are God given rules of nature or something. |
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repulsewarrior
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...what about voters spoiling their ballots?
not one of the candidates up to the task: The Cyprus Problem?
No one winning a majority of the population is next to impossible, but a campaign for unity, in solidarity, and in this manner, could form a percentage of votes with some significance, perhaps influencing the thinking of the candidates to adapt and to change. |
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Dream_Merchant
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| Mete wrote: |
| Dream_Merchant wrote: |
Then you get a F for maths.
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Oh OK, Math professor! You could have at least tried to explain your reasoning instead of simply saying things as if they are God given rules of nature or something. |
You are free to join my private maths class for 20€ / hour. |
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Mete
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| Dream_Merchant wrote: |
You are free to join my private maths class for 20€ / hour.
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 No, thanks. I already have an undergraduate degree in Math and graduate degree in Computer Science so I don't think there's anything you know that I don't when it comes to Math unless you're indeed a Math professor! |
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Dream_Merchant
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| Mete wrote: |
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You are free to join my private maths class for 20€ / hour.
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No, thanks. I already have an undergraduate degree in Math and graduate degree in Computer Science so I don't think there's anything you know that I don't when it comes to Math unless you're indeed a Math professor! |
Obviously I do, as far as the above quoted inequality is concerned.
QED
EDIT: besides your education is your own concern and I wish you all the best of luck, but if you ask me, so called Computer Scientists are people that couldn't cut to become engineers and end up as second echelon (right after internal designers). Just ask my Genetic Algorithms professor, when after the first intermission of the first lecture all the Comp Scies decided to leave the room never to return, leaving the engineers behind. |
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Mete
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| Dream_Merchant wrote: |
EDIT: besides your education is your own concern and I wish you all the best of luck, but if you ask me, so called Computer Scientists are people that couldn't cut to become engineers and end up as second echelon (right after internal designers). Just ask my Genetic Algorithms professor, when after the first intermission of the first lecture all the Comp Scies decided to leave the room never to return, leaving the engineers behind.
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Obviously you don't know the difference between Computer Scientists and say a Computer Engineer. The two are completely different and the choice between one or the other solely depends on what kind of work you'd like to do. But I won't further ruin this topic with nonsense. I'd rather hear more nonsense from other forum members like Kifeas. |
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100%cypriot
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they always say that EXPERIENCE is the main knowledge of all knowledge not intelligence ,
see where it has got all the greek politicians |
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Dream_Merchant
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| A fool is someone who does not admit his wrongdoings, a greater fool is someone who does not learn from them. Turkey is both. |
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Mete
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A fool is someone who does not admit his wrongdoings, a greater fool is someone who does not learn from them. Turkey is both.
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I wonder where this definition of fool puts the Greek Cypriot community and more specifically the Greek Cypriot leadership. Surely I haven't heard any Greek Cypriot politician admitting the mistakes of 1960s and surely I still see a lot of Greek Cypriot politicians and ordinary people glorifying what caused so much damage to Cyprus (i.e. Enosis and other nationalist ideas). |
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Dream_Merchant
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| Dream_Merchant wrote: |
A fool is someone who does not admit his wrongdoings, a greater fool is someone who does not learn from them. Turkey is both.
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I wonder where this definition of fool puts the Greek Cypriot community and more specifically the Greek Cypriot leadership. Surely I haven't heard any Greek Cypriot politician admitting the mistakes of 1960s and surely I still see a lot of Greek Cypriot politicians and ordinary people glorifying what caused so much damage to Cyprus (i.e. Enosis and other nationalist ideas). |
Since you don't know, you should not comment. Now, since you raise the question allow me to answer. The Greek Cypriot community has learned from its mistakes of the past, and has moved on. This is evident from the direction that society has taken in embracing the fact that we live on this island as free and independent people, Cypriots in the full meaning of the word, but at the same time keeping the traditions and customs that define the ethnic backgrounds that each and every one of us cherish. Hence, we have integrated our ethnicities into the fabric that is the Republic of Cyprus, simultaneously the newfound European ideals that we have and continue to incorporate in our daily lives.
the free citizens of the Republic of Cyprus have indeed come a long way since the days of the EOKA revolution and the dreams of the 1960s. By this I do not wish to state that I think such concepts where wrong, as you claim in your statement, but they are anachronistic and are inappropriate in application.
However, the Turkish Cypriot community, by secluding itself behind an illegal regime and by pursuing Taksimist strategies have not only managed to stay in the pre 1960s era, but cling even more dangerously on Turkey with the very realistic danger of being completely Turkified and losing whatever remnant of their unique identity that they would have had.
I hope that answers your question. |
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-mikkie2-
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| Surely I haven't heard any Greek Cypriot politician admitting the mistakes of 1960s and surely I still see a lot of Greek Cypriot politicians and ordinary people glorifying what caused so much damage to Cyprus |
Hmm, I don't think I or many Greek Cypriot's agree with you on this. Could you please tell me one politician that has glorified the cause of enosis (I presume that is what you mean)?
Plenty of Cypriot politicians have made apologies in the past on behalf of our community.
On the flip side, I would like to know of any Turkish Cypriot politician that has apologised publicly for all the suffering they have caused for their 'cause'? |
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Mete
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Since you don't know, you should not comment.
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Defensive, aren't we? You can talk about Turkish Cypriots and how "dangerously" they cling to Turkey (without questioning your community's responsibility in that) but I cannot talk about the wrongdoings of your community?
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Hmm, I don't think I or many Greek Cypriot's agree with you on this. Could you please tell me one politician that has glorified the cause of enosis (I presume that is what you mean)?
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Is it not true that EOKA members got medals for their "excellent" work of the past? Is it not true that a huge Greek flag was in display when the Turkish soccer team played against the Greek Cypriot team just recently? Is it not true that there are many Greek Cypriots even in this forum who cannot call EOKA fighters what they are, i.e. murderers? Is it not true that the murderers of Atlilar, Murataga, Sandallar, etc. are still roaming freely in your society? Is it not true that a Greek Cypriot film maker could not show his documentary about Turkish Cypriot sufferings on a single Greek Cypriot channel? Is it not true that Turkish Cypriots are still being kept away from the Republic of Cyprus in every way possible?
It sure looks like you guys learned a lot. |
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-mikkie2-
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| Is it not true that EOKA members got medals for their "excellent" work of the past? |
Lets be clear. EOKA, ie up to 1960, fought for the removal of the British from Cyprus. They fought against british interests in Cyprus. They did not fight Turkish Cypriot's until the Turkish Cypriot's started killing Greek Cypriot's. Remember the 1st act of ethnic cleansing in Cyprus? When Turkish Cypriot's cleared out the suburb of Omorphita in Nicosia of their Greek Cypriot inhabitants?
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| Is it not true that a huge Greek flag was in display when the Turkish soccer team played against the Greek Cypriot team just recently? |
Err, as opposed to the biggest flag in the world painted and lit up on Pendadactilos! And what does this have to do with my direct answer to you about POLITICIANS? Arent we talking about events of the past Mete?
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| Is it not true that there are many Greek Cypriots even in this forum who cannot call EOKA fighters what they are, i.e. murderers? |
As opposed to the TMT! What were they? Again, EOKA was primarily fighting against the British. They were not deliberately attacking Turkish Cypriot's up prior to independence unless forced to do so by TMT. I am sure there were some murderers amongst them but you cannot tar everyone with the same brush.
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| Is it not true that the murderers of Atlilar, Murataga, Sandallar, etc. are still roaming freely in your society? |
Again, what about all the Turkish Cypriot's that committed similar acts on Greek Cypriot's during the Turkish invasion? Aren't they roaming freely in the north? And more recently the murderers of Tassos Issac? Shot by a Turkish Cypriot politician no less! Is he locked up?
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| Is it not true that Turkish Cypriots are still being kept away from the Republic of Cyprus in every way possible? |
This is not entirely true and you know it. Turkish Cypriot politicians spurn any possibility of that. However, I guess EU passports and medical care and pensions don't mean much.
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| It sure looks like you guys learned a lot. |
Sure sounds like you have learned loads too! |
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Mete
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Sure sounds like you have learned loads too!
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I knew that you would respond this way but anyway, I never claimed that our side is any better than yours! I'm one of those who believe that both Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots are responsible for today's mess more than anyone else and any other country. What I cannot stand is Greek Cypriots who cannot get off their high horses and blame Turkey/Turkish Cypriots constantly for all their misfortunes. I'm not talking about you personally, I'm talking about the number of Greek Cypriots I have observed in the last 5-6 years and their attitudes towards Turkey/Turkish Cypriots with minimal self reflection on their part. |
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100%cypriot
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| A fool is someone who does not admit his wrongdoings, a greater fool is someone who does not learn from them. Turkey is both. |
And the Greek Cypriots who believe all the spoon fed Propaganda are even worse , because they are all of the above  |
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