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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dhavlos wrote:
who do you guys think would win, realistically, if Casoulidis and tpap are the last two candidates (which i assume is the most likely outcome)?
Just interested


Dhavlos, this whole thread is a waste of time as there is nothing to debate; TP will win hands down by a huge margin.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bananiot wrote:


Klerides is the only statesman that came out of Cyprus and even in his very old age he still stands above all of the pseudo statesmen put together.


Cemeteries are full of “irreplaceables!”

To claim that someone is or has been the one and only, out of an entire population of a country, is an absurdity by definition, and does not identify an open minded person, neither your party-mate George Vasiliou would have been very happy with it!

Whatever the "old ox" has done to build his image and credibility during his 10 year term as president, he has managed to demolish it all as soon as he stepped down, 4 years ago, and decided, since, to become a silly old buffer trying to secure his posthumous fame!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get Real said

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Dhavlos, this whole thread is a waste of time as there is nothing to debate; TP will win hands down by a huge margin.


... and Cyprus will lose hands down, by a huge margin. This man has managed in four years to turn the whole world against us, even Greece! The omens are bad. Not even the straight shooters can save us now.

One question: Could any other politician, besides Klerides, get Cyprus into the EU with its political problem unsolved? Could Kifeas's protege have done this feat? I think not and some more respect for the "old ox" wouldn't do any harm. He will probably soon die anyway, I think shortly after his wife passes away.

P.S. How about this one!

cemeteries are full of “irreplaceables!”

That was Kifeas's response to my voting for Klerides as the only statesman that came out of Cyprus. His ability to comprehend text is astonishing. Pity too, he has used a translation of a Greek cliche phrase that is usually used by cretins.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dhavlos wrote:
who do you guys think would win, realistically, if Casoulidis and tpap are the last two candidates (which i assume is the most likely outcome)?


That is probably the interesting question for Christofias gallups.

Cassoulides, Christofias and Papadopoulos would probably get about 1/3 of the votes each in a first round - if they where all to run.

In the second round:

Cassoulides/Christofias - here I am not sure where Papadopoulos votes would go; I suspect they would have very little respect for Christofias.

Cassoulides/Papadopoulos - would Christofias be able to command the AKEL voters to Papadopoulos after a 'bad' election campaign?

Christofias/Papadopoulos - I suspect Cassoulides voters would go for Christofias; not because they like him but because another term for Papadopoulos would be tragic.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's look at the almost certain facts:
DYSI supporters will not vote for an AKEL candidate and vise versa. These two parties are supported approx. by the 60% of the poppulation. Then DIKO about 20% and then the others.

Let's assume that Christofias is a candidate;
First round as PG said the main candidates will get approximately 30% of the votes each and then...

Cas/Chr - Almost certainly Cassoulides, Tpap supporters who are mostly democrats will vote for another democrat rather than a communist.
Cas/Tpap - Almost certainly Tpap, AKEL supporters will not vote for a DYSI supporter.
Chr/Tpap - here is where I disagree with pg as I said before it is very unlikely that DYSI supporters will vote for an AKEL candidate

So it is very, very unlikely for Christofias to win and I am sure he is aware of that. So as Alexios said, almost definately Christofias will not go in this elections.

So guys, GR is right... we like it or not Tpap most likely will win another term, not because he is the best politician in Cyprus at the time but because most people are commited to their party's decisions.

ps. let's vote for OUTOPOS! hehehe
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chr/Tpap - here is where I disagree with pg as I said before it is very unlikely that DYSI supporters will vote for an AKEL candidate


Sorry I meant... will not vote for an AKEL candidate
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK let's have some fun:)
I bet 5 pounds that Christofias will not run for President and TP will get 58% of the vote first round!! Casoulides will get 38%.The remaining 4% will be abstentions etc!!
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok

I bet 5 pounds that Christofias will not run for president, Tpap will get 55-60% of the vote first round, Kassoulides will get around 30% and the remaining 10-15%, others
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont believe in it , but a dream of it Laughing
so here it goes :

if christofias runs for a president tpap will loose.

if christofias does not run for a president , another left candidacy will appear receiving 10-15% of votes.

only for saying that i am willing to throw 5 pounds out of the window Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stavrizatz wrote:
Let's look at the almost certain facts:
DYSI supporters will not vote for an AKEL candidate and vise versa.


I think about 75% of the AKEL voters will vote as suggested by the party leadership - what ever that suggestion is. It is unlikely the leadership would usggest a vote on Cassoulides, so at least 75% to Papadopoulos.

DISY supporters..., I think most of those who voted YES will not vote for Papadopoulos - no matter how bad Christofias is. Possibly the DISY votes will be split among the YES/NO lines between Papadopoulos/Christofias.

Still a win for Papadopoulos...

That is why I see the possibility that the AKEL leadership both want to please its members by running its own candidate, and at the same time keep the '3-part-coalition' intact. Lillikas? Andros Kyprianou..., Tragedy?
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i will vote Christofias if he have the balls to stop being the dick sucker of this psycho Tpap because only the left powers in Cyprus can solve the problem, the right guys failed because their supporters are full o nationalistic bullshits. In any case our situation is beyond than tragic and the Anan plan is a big lost dream.

I really like this ridiculous person Kleanthous from DIKO that is speaking about a government of national union where all the parties (including DISI that it’s the only respectable party in Eurpe and every lunatic in Cyprus can easily understand it) will be under one president and he forget what he was from the first lunatics that they made this division between the people when they was speaking about traitors. I prefer to suicide than to vote for a government that DIKO will be in it. Not after they will say a big sorry about their ridiculous statements.

Mr Kleanthous have shit in his pants and he is speaking about the Taiwanisation of the occupied areas like the traitors was saying and because of that they was traitors.

The situation is beyond than ridiculous and this patriot farts will soon or later shit in their pants.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are lot of DIKO suckers that they realize what they did, first was Galanos that he is speaking about the powers that they try to bring division pointing to the patriot fart T.Pap after it was Markos Kiprianou and now is Kleanthous, they are not all … like Kafreas they can understand the situation that we are in to 100% because of their responsibility the only difference is that the third traitor from DIKO Mr Kleanthous is probably thinking his own political feature and trying to involve DISI with their madness either to save them because they are the only party with international respect and it’s very understandable from all the persons that have even a Donkey IQ, either to share his responsibility because he was from the first lunatics that they was talking about traitors and about the possibilities of Europe and for a whole ocean of bullshits that the person with the lowest IQ can’t stand.

If this piece of shit had any true interest about Cyprus and generally something beyond his pathetic criminal self he was going to pull back and let Marcos Kiprianou or someone else because his reputation in Europe is ridiculous and I can’t understand this donkey stubbornness of this human zombie’s that support this bustard that is humiliating us worldwide.

Mr Poustiopoullos doesn’t interested for anything beyond his pathetic self like his mentor (o gios tis ioudaikis poutanas) Makarios who let us to a third world situation of a theocratic state similar with Taliban’s and drive us with his stubbornness and with the help of the nationalistic lunatics of EOKA B to the destruction.

Who can imagine a priest for a president in a democracy?

Only a fucking lunatic.

The only persons with brains back then was the communists that they was voting the father of Clirides against Makarios but after that they become the suckers of the anticommunist Makarios and now they are the suckers of the biggest anticommunist in Cyprus Mr T.Pap. Where there humiliation will end?
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chapfallen, would you please mind your language.
Your point of view in a political discussion like this will probably get more readers and serious answers if you don't intersperse it with so many swear words. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stavrizatz wrote:
Ok

I bet 5 pounds that Christofias will not run for president, Tpap will get 55-60% of the vote first round, Kassoulides will get around 30% and the remaining 10-15%, others


I will bet 100,000 pounds that whoever you vote for a Politician will always win...and the Cyprus problem will never be solved...till one or the other of the main communities become extinct in Cyprus... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.till one or the other of the main communities become extinct in Cyprus..

You mean till Turkish Cypriots become extinct...or till Cypriot population becomes minority among Europeans in Cyprus.
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