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100%cypriot Warnings : 4 Ministerial

Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 2164
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| This whole story is tragic but to suddenly turn someone's life upside down can only worsen things. |
For once i am with you on this  |
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Alexios
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Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 976
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Things are complicated.Certainly, if the man is alive and someone else tell him the truth, his life will be turned upside down.If he suddenly remembers something himself then it is up to him what to do. However, his mother's life has been upside down for 33 years.She deserves to know what happened to him and to see him, if he is alive, away from publicity if that is possible.
I am personally convinced he is alive.His wound was not that serious and he was certainly taken to Turkey either to receive proper treatment or because someone decidedso and had the power to take him there..... |
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Bananiot Warnings : 1 Deputy

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 1214 Location: Nicosia
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I cannot emphasise it strongly enough. I am touched by Kutlai's message on this issue. Remember, we murdered his father when Kutlai was only 10 or 11 years old. Kutlai expressed his grief for Christakis and his family.
I follow the unfolding story from the press, he said. I have also gone through this ordeal since my father is missing since late 1963. I know exactly how the family of Christakis feels and how desparate they are for any information on the missing boy. I would like to call upon the politicians, on both sides, not to politicise the issue and not to dramatise things because it is a real tragedy for the people involved.
He was brave enough to call upon the leaders from both sides to tell the relatives of the missing persons that after so many years and due to the absence of evidence, we should consider all missing persons dead. Mr Papadopoulos, Kutlai added, said a couple of years ago that no Turkish Cypriot was killed between 1963 and 1974. If I could rely on this statement, he said, then I could consider that my father is still alive.
The case of young Christakis is of course very similar to Kutlai's father. Both disappeared after getting hospital treatment. |
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cypezokyli
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the turk who has told the story about the young missing Greek Cypriot, is in a long interview today in politis, is sharing his experiences in 1974.
i am just wondering if his past interview was translated in turkish, or if this new interview will be translated.
it is definetely worth reading |
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cypezokyli
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it is interesting that some turkish newspapers, are viewing the matter from a humanitarian perspective, and not simply disregard it as Greek Cypriot propaganda.
the newspaper radical , had yesterday as its first page article : "has anyone seen christos georgiou?"
so small things like that, always give some more hope.. |
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Mete Warnings : 3 Deputy

Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 1150 Location: Boston
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the newspaper radical , had yesterday as its first page article : "has anyone seen christos georgiou?"
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Radikal is one of the few real newspapers in Turkey, that's why. |
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cypezokyli
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the touching story of the turkish corporal , mehmet, went one the last days.
he told a story how he saved the life of a youg Greek Cypriot teenager in 1974.
the 50 year old (today) kostas recognised the man who saved his life, in an interview he gave yesterday.
he thanked his saviour, and both expressed the wish to meet. |
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cypezokyli
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| Mete wrote: |
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the newspaper radical , had yesterday as its first page article : "has anyone seen christos georgiou?"
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Radikal is one of the few real newspapers in Turkey, that's why. |
just found this interesting article about the reality in the press world
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http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=68205
this is ofcource, the situation in turkey, but its not that much different in cyp either. |
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cypezokyli
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more and more people share their memories about those events. the old man who was with christagis when he was shot, hat more details to add on another event. in the village voni around 150 Greek Cypriots were gothered in the village church. some Turkish Cypriots paramilitary came and picked some men. it was obvious that they were picked to be executed. one of them begged them to let him live, as he was a father of 4 kids. they did so and picked other 7 persons including a 9 year old boy. a Turkish Cypriot then shouted at the others telling them : what did this kid do to you ? let it go".
so the kid was saved.
irrespective of ideological difference ,i have to say, that this effort by politis newspaper deserves respect. more and more people are ready to share their experiences. and thats the only way for catharsis in this island |
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100%cypriot Warnings : 4 Ministerial

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| cypzekoli wrote: |
| Turkish Cypriots paramilitary came and picked some men. it was obvious that they were picked to be executed. |
Find these animals so they can be tried in court and punished ,
As a Cypriot it disgusts me to here these stories  |
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cypezokyli
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| 100%cypriot wrote: |
| cypzekoli wrote: |
| Turkish Cypriots paramilitary came and picked some men. it was obvious that they were picked to be executed. |
Find these animals so they can be tried in court and punished ,
As a Cypriot it disgusts me to here these stories  |
if we get down to personal levels, some were indiscriminate murders from fanatics.....some other had lists, and knew exactly whom they wanted to shoot. old open accounts ? who knows ?
if we stay on that level (and forget politics , nations etc) , we might find often that attacks and killings were associated with looting and stealing. i remember my grandfather (who was only a farmer and not a social scientist of any kind) saying once : "we had no killings or stealing with the Turkish Cypriot villages in our areas. we had water , we were rich. this happened between poor villages, and it often involved stealing of animals".
i cannot claim that i have evidence to support this claim, but it sounds like an interesting research question. |
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Mete Warnings : 3 Deputy

Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 1150 Location: Boston
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"we had no killings or stealing with the Turkish Cypriot villages in our areas. we had water , we were rich. this happened between poor villages, and it often involved stealing of animals".
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I don't know about killings but I do know about animal stealings. I've heard stories involving animal stealings in my dad's village which is an all Turkish Cypriot village with nearby all Greek Cypriot villages. A Turkish Cypriot would steal 100 sheep from a Greek Cypriot villager and a Greek Cypriot villager would respond by stealing 200 sheep from another Turkish Cypriot and the cycle goes on... |
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cypezokyli
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HOLY SHIT !!!!!!
politis newspaper received an email saying the following
> Hi
> > l call from turkei n ADANA ,l sending mail for This Subject, l read
> politis
> new this cildren picture same to me.
> > cotact to me.
>kenan kenan
this guy apparently has many similarities with christakis - same age, memory gap before 5 years of age , a wound on the foot ....
ofcource parashos did not say today if this guy is indeed christakis. we have to wait till tomorrows publication.
very touching is the reaction of christakis mother - giagia (nane) myrofora:
she was calm and did not get overexcited.
she said if he lives and grew up as a turk, she just wants to see him, hug him and give him her wishes. she said she does not want neither to cause trouble to the family nor to ruin their lives (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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you think they found him ? !!!! |
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100%cypriot Warnings : 4 Ministerial

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| it would be very nice if this IS the boy mentioned and he went to see his mother |
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brother Warnings : 3 Site Admin

Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 8920 Location: London/Cyprus
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Update on the above news story, the man agreed to DNA tests that proved he was NOT the missing child.  |
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