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city
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https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2207/
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Cooliris Previews 2.1 for Firefox gives you the power to browse faster and send links instantly.
• Simply mouse over the Cooliris link icon, and a preview window will instantly appear to show you the underlying content. No more clicking back and both, or leaving your current page.
• To email a link instantly, just right-click on any web page.
• Right-click on any phrase to have Cooliris automatically do a subsearch in Google, Wikipedia, or a dictionary.
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Installed it a few days ago and really like it! |
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Get Real!
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Citty...
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| Installed it a few days ago and really like it! |
P2P (peer to peer) programs such as Kazza, Firefox, I-Mesh, Limewire, Mozilla, and many others usually contain adware/mulware and seriously tax your system's processor and a range of other things to a system.
You might want to scan your system with a good adware/mulware remover...  |
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Crash Test Dummy
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Joined: 25 Sep 2005
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Location: London(ish)
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erolz
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Joined: 11 Aug 2005
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Location: Kyrenia / Girne
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Citty...
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| Installed it a few days ago and really like it! |
P2P (peer to peer) programs such as Kazza, Firefox, I-Mesh, Limewire, Mozilla, and many others usually contain adware/mulware and seriously tax your system's processor and a range of other things to a system.
You might want to scan your system with a good adware/mulware remover... |
What makes you think that cooliris preview contains any spyware or malware ?
I can find no evidence that it does and much that it does not. |
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Erolz...
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| What makes you think that cooliris preview contains any spyware or malware ? |
According to the advertisement the "Cooliris Previews" is an ADD-ON to one of the following...
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Works with:
Firefox 1.0 - 3.0a1 ALL
Mozilla 1.7 - 1.8 ALL |
...and these are P2P programs very likely containing adware/mulware. I should've made myself clearer that you can't have Coliris without first installing or having one of the two P2Ps from above. |
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Get Real!
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Here's a small list of P2P software and their known bundled spyware/malware... (there's many more)
iMesh - Ezula, Gator
Kazaa - Brilliant Digital, Gator, Joltid, TopSearch
Ares - NavExcel Toolbar
Bearshare - WhenU SaveNow, WhenU Weather
Morpheus - PIB Toolbar, Huntbar Toolbar, NEOToolbar |
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erolz
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Erolz...
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| What makes you think that cooliris preview contains any spyware or malware ? |
According to the advertisement the "Cooliris Previews" is an ADD-ON to one of the following...
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Works with:
Firefox 1.0 - 3.0a1 ALL
Mozilla 1.7 - 1.8 ALL |
...and these are P2P programs very likely containing adware/mulware. I should've made myself clearer that you can't have Coliris without first installing or having one of the two P2Ps from above. |
Sorry GR but you just talking nonsense. Firefox and Mozilla are NOT p2p progams - they are internet browsers and they do NOT contain any spyware. Nor does the BROWSER add on cooliris contain any spyware either. All you are doing is 'scaring' people with inaccurate and misleading 'information' based on the false notion that firefox and mozilla are p2p programs. Please stop it. |
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Erolz...
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| Sorry GR but you just talking nonsense.... |
Mozilla -> Gozilla I often get confused... there’s too much crap out there. The latter according to mags…
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| Tools such as Netscape's SmartDownload and Radiate's GoZilla have just one objective: to monitor and log your download activity, and then send targeted Web advertising to you based on that activity. |
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,78052-page,1/article.html
With regards to Firefox there seems to be plenty of controversy surrounding it…
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=404601
…and in a few other places but I do stand corrected in the nature of these programs; being browsers and not P2P and Mozilla seemingly being “safe” although interestingly even IE6 Contains the Alexa Toolbar, so I wouldn’t brag on too much about them being safe.
I've spent most of my working life cleaning infected systems so I've seen so much customer pain and suffering that I no longer trust ANY internet related software. |
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pg
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| Most likely there is less risk of getting infected with spyware, etc, if one uses Firefox than if one uses Internet Explorer... At least over the last couple of years. |
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thebrix
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I think everyone is getting a bit muddled up here
Windows XP and before allow any program, which does anything, to be downloaded and executed on a PC; there are effectively no restrictions on this action before Windows Vista unless you go through the enormous rigmarole of setting up a restricted account. (Hence the need for anti-spyware software, which attempts to catch malicious programs on download and before they execute). Vista, in effect, puts a "do you want to do this? (y/n)" box between download and execution. (That box, and various other things going on in the background, goes by the name of UAC - User Account Control).
Java allows applets to be downloaded and executed. Applets are not "programs" in the above sense; they cannot do certain things (such as, for example, running any old DOS command - a Java applet which ran FORMAT C:\ would be somewhat disastrous) and what they can do is constrained in certain ways (for example, they can only read from or write to certain folders on the local hard disk). This "sandboxing" is specified as part of the Java language.
Firefox plugins are written in (among other things) Javascript, which has a somewhat remote relationship with Java (despite the name). Javascript is similarly constrained to Java and is certainly nowhere near as free as Windows; I do not know the details but, if there was some obvious weakness in the implementation, we would have heard about it!
I would suspect that the Firefox implementation of Javascript would allow certain traffic to be passed back to servers; the Internet simply would not work with only one-way traffic.
I will have a look at what Firefox plugins actually send to and fro, using wireshark, soon; all this poses a very interesting question (suppose you download a random application, plugin or whatever ... can you trust it?) |
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city
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| just click the wheel on your mouse and it opens a new tab |
I certainly do know that. Thank you. I just find cooliris very practical, at least for my liking. And I don't always want a new tab, just a preview whats behind a link. 
@GR: I think you mixed a few things
@Erol: thanks for clarifying
@Brix:  I don't understand much of what you are saying. All I know is that FF is usually much safer then IE (sure till Vista came out). Plus I do run whats necessary to keep my machine clean and safe. Spybot and Kaspersky Internet Security (I recently changed from using 'Kaspersky Anti Virus' only) |
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erolz
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…and in a few other places but I do stand corrected in the nature of these programs; being browsers and not P2P and Mozilla seemingly being “safe” although interestingly even IE6 Contains the Alexa Toolbar, so I wouldn’t brag on too much about them being safe. |
Look firefox is NOT spyware. It does NOT contain spyware. Nor does the firefox addon cooliris contain spyware. Neither is Alexa Toolbar spyware.
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I've spent most of my working life cleaning infected systems so I've seen so much customer pain and suffering that I no longer trust ANY internet related software. |
So you just by default warn users not to install any internet related software , regardless of if it is spyware or not? Why not just advise us not to connect to the internet at all if this is the case? That way you can be 100% safe from spyware.
The best defense against things like spyware is GOOD INFORMATON. Just 'worrying people' with bad information is no help at all and once again I would request you please stop it. |
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Get Real!
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Erolz...
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| Look firefox is NOT spyware. It does NOT contain spyware. Nor does the firefox addon cooliris contain spyware. Neither is Alexa Toolbar spyware. |
You seem stuck on the word “spyware” and they’re not the only problems that can be introduced to a system from all these junk “utilities”. For example they could leave a port open through which they would send/receive info, install BHOs, insert entries into the host file, install and automate processes, modify IP addresses, etc, etc, etc, so…
I strongly advise you NOT to BROADCAST GUARANTEES to people, like you’re doing above, that such and such internet based software is “problem free” UNLESS YOU ARE THE AUTHOR AND BARE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY CONSEQUENCES and never forget that it’s better for a user to be safe than sorry.
Alternatively, you might want to post the tests you’ve conducted that prove your absolute claims, and even then it would have to go through the tests of others before approval/acceptance by the relevant technical online community.
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| So you just by default warn users not to install any internet related software , regardless of if it is spyware or not? Why not just advise us not to connect to the internet at all if this is the case? That way you can be 100% safe from spyware. |
Actually, I sometimes DO advise some customers to obstruct internet connection from some of their systems; it was only last week when a server at a Dentist reception had its static IP address modified by an attack to point to a site on the internet and as a result all clients couldn’t access the dental software sitting on the server and the culprit was a new receptionist girl who saw fit to install Yahoo Messenger, Yahoo Toolbar, Mozilla/Firefox? Thunderbird and guess what… she somehow caught one of the CoolWebSearch variants (very intelligent and nasty family) that did all the damage. Guess how I safeguarded the company after removing all the above junk? It was a tough decision, it took me a whole 10 seconds to decide but it had to be done... no more Internet for the poor girl; now she’ll be twiddling her thumbs when there’s no customers around.
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| The best defense against things like spyware is GOOD INFORMATON. Just 'worrying people' with bad information is no help at all and once again I would request you please stop it. |
“Good information” defends systems from attacks? Did you learn that doing your MCSE? |
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pg
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thebrix
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| It was a tough decision, it took me a whole 10 seconds to decide but it had to be done... no more Internet for the poor girl; now she’ll be twiddling her thumbs when there’s no customers around. |
Congratulations on that - far too rarely done. I work at "large" companies and, as far as I am aware, none explicitly prevent certain (groups of) employees from having Internet access. That has always struck me as wrong.
(And any exclusion would be based on job responsibilities; I am not advocating a return to the situation, which I actually came across 20 years ago in an oil refinery, where "the management" used a "restaurant" and the "workers" used a "canteen" - in 21st-century terms, if you wear a tie you have Internet access ...). |
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