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zan Warnings : 2 Mukhtar/is

Joined: 31 Dec 2005 Posts: 962
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Either that or you have to get rid of the military protectorate in the occupied areas and free yourself from the isolation that Turkey has imposed upon you and your fellow Cypriots since decades.
Of course sitting at home is the easy solution, so all the best of luck. |
Have you taken in anything we Turkish Cypriots have said all this time?????  |
That you are under economic and political isolation, that you have been denied your rights of self determination for so long, that you have had military oppression forced upon you, sure I read you loud and clear.
You are simply barking up the wrong olive tree.. its Turkey with its 'peace operation' and subsequent 'protection' that has put you in this mess, ask Turkey to 'unmess' it for you. |
Then you will agree that the Armenians brought it upon them selves as well or is it that we should take the blame for every thing. Why is it that when the Armenian quarters were being burnt that the many ships that were in the area just watched from a safe distance. Is that our fault as well. You can hate the Turks as much as you like but that does not make them responsible for everything. Grow up. |
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Bananiot Warnings : 1 Deputy

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 1214 Location: Nicosia
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Here is Loucas's Charalampous views on this issue:
Who are the moral instigators?
By Loucas Charalambous
THE young thugs who molested Turkish Cypriot pupils on Wednesday were the least responsible for their actions. Behind this heinous behaviour lie the true guilty, the moral instigators, who must be sought out from within our political establishment. It is they who created and who maintain the climate of antagonism, hostility and hatred toward Turkish Cypriots, aimed at serving their political goals, namely, their grip on power. And the preservation and consolidation of partition is a basic prerequisite of that goal. The young hoodlums were incubated inside this climate of hostility toward the Turkish Cypriot community, a climate created by the government and its satellites.
Some rushed to portray this as an isolated incident. Yet over the past couple of years dozens of similar incidents have happened against Turkish Cypriots visiting the south. Most have not seen the light of day because our police keep a lid on them. But the phenomenon is growing by the day. For example, there have been many cases of organised gangs of hooligans slashing the tyres of cars belonging to Turkish Cypriots. Almost none of these cases have been solved to date. There have been other instances of assault and damages caused to Turkish Cypriot vehicles. At the traffic lights near the Hilton hotel, there have taken place several such incidents before or after football matches, the “heroes” being so-called football fans. And in another act of hatred a few months ago in Lefkara, a restaurant owner refused to serve a company of Turkish Cypriots who had gone there for lunch.
All these are examples of a climate of hostility, which is fostered by the official state. Whenever Turkish Cypriots are arrested at the checkpoints and harassed, the message conveyed is precisely this: hostility and hatred to the other side. When a government minister declares that he will have arrested at the checkpoints all Turkish Cypriots living in Greek Cypriot-owned houses, is this not a message to juvenile delinquents that they are more or less carrying out a national mission by beating up on Turkish Cypriots? When newspapers and politicians scream their lungs out because tomatoes made in Turkey have turned up in our markets, it is this same hostile climate that is being cultivated. And it is these same hypocrites who daily call for a normalisation of relations with Turkey! Worse, statements by government officials and several politicians serve to fuel the flames of hostility. For instance, look at the language and tone of government spokesman Christodoulos Pashardis when he refers to the Turkish Cypriot leadership. It is a language and tone dating back to the 1960s. Look at the abusive epithets hurled on Turkish Cypriot leaders by the radio station of the Zeus media group every time they mention their names. Is it a coincidence that the Zeus group are the main backers of President Papadopoulos?
Of course, the responsibilities of AKEL’s leadership are far grimmer. When, four years ago, Demetris Christofias and the rest of AKEL’s elite resurrected the Yiorkadjis movement and brought it to power, no doubt they knew what they were doing. They were aware that the people in whose hands they placed Cyprus’ fate were the same people who brought about the bloody inter-communal clashes of 1963, which led to the well-known disastrous consequences. They knew that they were handing power to the people whose background is closely linked to armed conflict with the Turkish Cypriot community. Therefore, they also knew that these people in whose hands they placed our fate would seek to preserve partition and separation, which are entwined with their political survival.
So rather than hypocritically asking parents to “put some sense” into their children, it would be better for Christofias to apologise for the woes he has wrought upon us. Even at this late hour, Christofias should try to put a stop to this paranoid downward spiral, which he himself has brought about. |
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Dream_Merchant Warnings : 1 Senior Villager

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 422 Location: Limassol
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| zan wrote: |
You can hate the Turks as much as you like |
I do not hate Turks, on the contrary, I have met some very decent turks, particularly one who I have known for over 7 years now and lived with for over 4 and at the moment I am ignoring, just to reply to you.
However, I do hate arrogance and ignorance. And despite the fact that my real life experiences tell me otherwise, many of the Turks I meet in this forum demonstrate a healthy proportion of both of those traits. I also hate the machinations of the Turkish regime to culture and strengthen this kind of ultra nationalism.
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but that does not make them responsible for everything.
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No, but it makes them responsible for everything they do. Thats all that I, or anyone with a sane mind wants really, for people to act responsibly. If Turkey is really changed and wishes to put the past in the past, it has to start acting accordingly and not harpooning its future on the back of a mutated vision of Ataturk.
I am mature enough for my age, maybe it is you that should calm down a bit and think reasonably. |
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RudeGal
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Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 385 Location: London
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Dream Merchant you are wrong that this mess is caused by Turkey. It was initiated by Greek Cypriot greed for total power, which brought about resistance from Turkish Cypriots. After 11 years of innocents on both sides suffering (tho more overall suffering of Turkish Cypriots) the events of summer 74 happened.
Turkey is the only true friend Turkish Cypriots have had and given situation/embargoes, Turkish Cypriots are locked into this long and not necessarily desired marriage. If Greek Cypriots want to see Turkey's influence removed, the sensible thing is to encourage Turkish Cypriot development independent of Turkey. But what do Greek Cypriots do? They pretend Turkish Cypriot's democratically elected leaders don't exist & insist only do deal with Turkey, they maintain pressure for the total isolation of North (trade, communications, travel, sports, etc) and then they (and sadly also you) try to pass it all off as Turkey's mess. It is not!
If you don't already know, the embargoes against Turkish Cypriots started way before 1974. Some - like football - commenced in 1955, most took hold between 1963-74, and after this time it shifted from an ethnic isolation to a territorial one.
As lord maginnis said in his parl speech on 20 Nov, having declined choice to reunify in 2004 (which is their lawful right) they have no moral claim for world to help them isolate Turkish Cypriots.
For me, bulk of problem in Cyprus is with Greek Cypriots. Annan Plan showed Turkey willing to pull out; it was Greek Cypriots who were unwilling to compromise.
A solution won't come until there is a signficant change of mindset in South. |
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Dhavlos Warnings : 1 Site Admin

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham
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You cant say that just because we rejected the annan plan, that we reject unification. That is wrong.
And you say that we only want to deal with Turkey...well to be honest, even if we did just deal with teh Turkish Cypriots, would we really, or would the leadership essentially be a puppet of Turkeys desires (ie military bases etc! amongst other things)? Turkey is always the one who calls the cyprob a national issue, rahter than an issue of the Turkish Cypriots ''who Turkey support''...what bloody right to they have to meddle in the affairs of cypriots!?!? |
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stavrizatz
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Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 910 Location: Australia / Lefkosia
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| For me, bulk of problem in Cyprus is with Greek Cypriots. Annan Plan showed Turkey willing to pull out; it was Greek Cypriots who were unwilling to compromise. |
Here we go again, the Anan plan... tell me why in all previous attempts Turkey rejected any other plans?
Imo if it wasn't for EU then no Anan plan would exist, not any other plan. Anyway the side that puts the most pressure for negotiations is the Greek Cypriot side, for many Turkish Cypriots the Cuprob was solved in 74 but now that Cyprus is in the EU, well you want both the benefits of EU and and a form of solution that will maximise your benefits ignoring some fair demands of the Greek Cypriots such as return of refugees, quarantee that Turkish troops will move out and other... and again Greek Cypriot said no to Anan plan and no to that specific plan not a no to a solution. |
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zan Warnings : 2 Mukhtar/is

Joined: 31 Dec 2005 Posts: 962
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| Dhavlos wrote: |
You cant say that just because we rejected the annan plan, that we reject unification. That is wrong.
And you say that we only want to deal with Turkey...well to be honest, even if we did just deal with teh Turkish Cypriots, would we really, or would the leadership essentially be a puppet of Turkeys desires (ie military bases etc! amongst other things)? Turkey is always the one who calls the cyprob a national issue, rahter than an issue of the Turkish Cypriots ''who Turkey support''...what bloody right to they have to meddle in the affairs of cypriots!?!? |
Dhavlos
There is a very good reason for the Republic of Cyprus not to talk directly with the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and that is because by doing so they would have to acknowledge the fact that we exist and the first step toward recognition. It is a political game and I can see where they are coming from but it also makes them look as if they do not want to find a solution if they do not do so.
stavrizatz
Please think again what the real effects of the refugees returning would be for the Turkish Cypriots. A reasonable demand...............I don't think so. That would be the end of any plans we have for our selves. I am beginning to believe that you guys do not give a monkeys for anything we want and are hell bent on getting what you want. Perhaps my brother is right after all and I owe him an apology. |
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Dream_Merchant Warnings : 1 Senior Villager

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 422 Location: Limassol
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Please think again what the real effects of the refugees returning would be for the Turkish Cypriots. A reasonable demand...............I don't think so. That would be the end of any plans we have for our selves. |
How dare you!
That would be the end of any plans we have for our selves. DID YOU THINK OF THE PLANS OF ALL THOSE REFUGEES WHEN YOU FORCED THEM AT THE THREAT OF DEATH OUT OF THEIR HOMES, BUSINESSES, LANDS AND PROPERTIES?!
Back then it was convenient for you. Oh look a free house, a free car and a free shop to boot! But now that you are stuck in your misery, you come demanding that your 'plans' be respected and for your 'isolation' to be 'lifted'.
It would seem that even though Cyprus lost the war, you did not win it.
Ask Ecevit if he gave a damn about your 'plans'. |
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zan Warnings : 2 Mukhtar/is

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| Dream_Merchant wrote: |
| zan wrote: |
Please think again what the real effects of the refugees returning would be for the Turkish Cypriots. A reasonable demand...............I don't think so. That would be the end of any plans we have for our selves. |
How dare you!
That would be the end of any plans we have for our selves. DID YOU THINK OF THE PLANS OF ALL THOSE REFUGEES WHEN YOU FORCED THEM AT THE THREAT OF DEATH OUT OF THEIR HOMES, BUSINESSES, LANDS AND PROPERTIES?!
Back then it was convenient for you. Oh look a free house, a free car and a free shop to boot! But now that you are stuck in your misery, you come demanding that your 'plans' be respected and for your 'isolation' to be 'lifted'.
It would seem that even though Cyprus lost the war, you did not win it.
Ask Ecevit if he gave a damn about your 'plans'. |
If you took just one moment to think about what I say then you would not write such rubbish. Some of you guys are so inconsistent that it makes me want to scream so how I can ask you to think about greater matters is just impossible.
I did not force any one out of any where. Your views are so tainted that you cannot see straight. I had no plans then but to survive and now I choose my future and that of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus from today. I have nothing but love and sympathy for the refugees and expect the same from them. How dare you! I was chased so far away from my country that I did not know who I was supposed to be for a long time, Turkish, Cypriot or a Brit. Why do I have to give again. The refugees have already lost their homes. I understand they live with a little bit of hope but I do believe that most of them have realised that return is a distant hope and not really practical in the present situation. I am not asking them to make any more sacrifice then they already have and are asking them to not make me do so. You want revenge I want a solution for all. What you are asking for is a people that have endured so much to take full blame for what has happened and go back to 1974. Again how dare you. Let us forget about the suffering, let us forget about the dead, let us forget about the the real problem and let the refugees back and that will be the end of the problem. Is that your fix all. Do you really believe that that will be the end all of all the troubles. How simplistic. If it is a selfish attitude you want then that is what you are breeding. Because of this type of attitude more and more Turkish Cypriots are turning away from the Cypriot idea and finding they are Turkish. Don't blame yourselves, give us a few crocodile tears every now and again and tell us you did do a little wrong but then cut off our hands anyway. You broke the window and we climbed in but it was all our doing. As soon as I try to step into the middle ground all I see is some Greek Cypriot trying to run me down.
This is not about winning or losing it is about where we go from a certain point. Compensation is what I am offering the refugees and nothing more because anything else is just regrettably impossible. You keep wanting the whole sweet shop and pretty soon you will end up with nothing but what you have now.
As for feeling sorry for what happened to these refugees, without some understanding in return those feelings are beginning to disappear. |
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Dream_Merchant Warnings : 1 Senior Villager

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 422 Location: Limassol
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I did not force any one out of any where. |
You know better than anyone else what you did or did not do. I was not referring to you personally.
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Your views are so tainted that you cannot see straight. I had no plans then but to survive and now I choose my future and that of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus from today.
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Everyone tries to survive. This is life. But not everyone tries to rob, kill and cheat to do that.
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I have nothing but love and sympathy for the refugees and expect the same from them.
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Love has been hollow without action and sympathy was not paid when due.. and you actually consider fair to have it in return? Love for what, for usurping another person's property and sympathy for what, for destroying another persons hopes and dreams.
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How dare you! I was chased so far away from my country that I did not know who I was supposed to be for a long time, Turkish, Cypriot or a Brit.
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You are what you are, if you are so weak in character that you desperately need your nationality to define you, then feel free to feel Turkish, because after all anything else would be insulting your inherent Turkishness, and its good being a Turk.
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Why do I have to give again.
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Again? When did you give? To me it seems you only took. And by force at that.
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The refugees have already lost their homes. I understand they live with a little bit of hope but I do believe that most of them have realised that return is a distant hope and not really practical in the present situation.
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No thanks to either you or your so called 'politicians' and 'leaders' who have torn this country in pieces.
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I am not asking them to make any more sacrifice then they already have
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THEY WERE NOT ASKED TO MAKE A SACRIFICE! They were sacrificed at the will of a military aggressor!!! They were forced to make those sacrifices for fear of loss of not only what they lost, but of their very own lives and the lives of their loved ones!!!
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and are asking them to not make me do so.
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You should have considered what you did when you did it. To have an individual forgive you, is one matter, but to have the law forget you, is yet another.
You need not sacrifice anything which is not yours, as what you have stolen needs be returned.
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You want revenge I want a solution for all.
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You want to legitimise what you have perpetrated, I want to bring to justice the crime that has been commited.
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What you are asking for is a people that have endured so much to take full blame for what has happened and go back to 1974.
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The hardship you have endured is of your own arrogant making. Until you admit to your own guilt, then lie in the bed you stole for yourself. And as I have repeatedly said, each party should take the blame that accrues to it. Even though there is a concept of sharing guilt and blame, there is no concept of doing an equal share. And in this case, the blame is mostly on Turkey's hands.
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Again how dare you. Let us forget about the suffering, let us forget about the dead, let us forget about the the real problem and let the refugees back and that will be the end of the problem. Is that your fix all.
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Forget? What forget? Who said anything about forgetting. Instead we should remember and learn. And make sure its not forgotten, lest it be swept aside as a historical debate of ambiguous nature.
The real problem? The REAL problem is that half of my country is occupied by an aggressive foreign power that has proceeded in ethnic cleansing of my fellow countrymen and a segregation of my people along ethnic lines. The REAL problem are the 40 thousand strong troops stationed in the confines of my homeland. THAT is the real problem.
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Do you really believe that that will be the end all of all the troubles. How simplistic.
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Do you think that the solution is so convoluted? How arrogant.
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If it is a selfish attitude you want then that is what you are breeding. Because of this type of attitude more and more Turkish Cypriots are turning away from the Cypriot idea and finding they are Turkish.
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HAHAHAHAHA!
Do you need your ambiguous nationality to define you? Do you not know who you are? And indeed if they are finding that they are Turkish, then all the better for they are really Turkish and claiming that they are anything else is a facade that is searching to be unveiled in a horrific manner befitting a tragic masquerade which your motherland has orchestrated.
Besides, it is no surprise to me that this is the case, since the majority of the so called citizens of the TRNCy are illegally imported Turks from mainland Turkey. It should be no wonder that the ever decreasing Turkish Cypriot minority is diminishing.
HAHAHAHAHA!
You thought that Turkey would be protecting your rights in your own 'homeland'. Instead now you have become a minority within your own homes. Given a few more decades, the Turkish Cypriot will be no more, supplanted by the very Turk that is called to guard it.
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Don't blame yourselves, give us a few crocodile tears every now and again and tell us you did do a little wrong but then cut off our hands anyway. You broke the window and we climbed in but it was all our doing.
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No, we were forced to leave the door open. And you came in, killed the owner, evicted his family and stole his house.
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As soon as I try to step into the middle ground all I see is some Greek Cypriot trying to run me down.
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And it shall be so, because of your concept of fairness. The middle ground is not the geometric middle in this case, because the weight of blame lies greatly lopsided on your side. So if you want to find a compromise, you need to do a lot better than going to the middle, which even though you are claiming, your leadership is not even doing THAT!
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This is not about winning or losing it is about where we go from a certain point.
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As I said, I dont know about winning.. but definitely the Cypriot people have lost much. So it is very much about losing. And where we go is to a forum of law where this case should have been settled long time ago, if it were not for the decrees of the powers that be.
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Compensation is what I am offering the refugees and nothing more because anything else is just regrettably impossible. You keep wanting the whole sweet shop and pretty soon you will end up with nothing but what you have now.
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Compensation actually sounds fair. How much and in what manner though is to be settled. Nothing is impossible, the Turkish military proves that day after day.
The whole sweet shop used to belong to its owner until it was forcibly robbed from. Now it no longer does, whats wrong with demanding it back in its entirety. If I steal 100 pounds from you, do you think its fair that I give you back 50 and keep the rest? Rubbish Rubbish Rubbish!
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As for feeling sorry for what happened to these refugees, without some understanding in return those feelings are beginning to disappear. |
I dont want you to feel sorry. The time to feel sorry has long passed. You should have felt sorry when you were forcing them from their homes and destroying their lives and livelihoods. And dont expect any compassion until you return what you have stolen and/or paid for the crimes, for even a thief that returns in time what he has stolen is still a thief and can be judged in a court of law. But you have not returned even 1 square centimeter, never mind admitting to your guilt or asking for forgiveness. |
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Viewpoint Warnings : 2 Mukhtar/is

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You played with a bomb which exploded in your face, the result of which you have now lost 1/3 of what you had before, why cry? and make all the excuses under the sun? you brought this upon yourself. Your blaming everyone else but yourselves, is this a Greek Cypriot trait or are you raised this way?. To rectify the situation all you have to do is commit to not playing with anything dangerous ever again, provide the guarantees and safety valves necessary and you will return to your old health. The choice is yours....  |
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erolz
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| Dream_Merchant wrote: |
| Everyone tries to survive. This is life. But not everyone tries to rob, kill and cheat to do that. |
Nor does everyone try to rob kill and cheat not as a matter of survival but in the pursuit of imposing their will on others, yet this is what your leadership and community did to ours.
The bottom line DM is that both communities played their part in creating this mess and if there is to be a fair and just solution it is going to require both communities to bear some of the burden of that solution. You define the problem as being one merely of Turkish / Turkish Cypriot theft and aggression and thus you define a solution around this fallacy, whereby the Turkish Cypriot community suffers the cost of a solution and your community does not. Until you realise and accept that your community were complicit in the creation of the problem and thus must justly contribute to the cost of solving it there can be little hope of a just solution imo. |
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zan Warnings : 2 Mukhtar/is

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Dream_Merchant
I have never seen such a long post that is full of crock. First with you the Armenians are Innocent and now the Greeks and, the Turks are to blame for everything.
Your statements are all full of hate for Turkey and contain no pride in your so called Cypriotness. If you were to be so fond of all Cypriots then where is your love for our Turkish side. You ache to wipe that part of me out and that is the crux of the problem. What you have to understand now and forever that you will not be allowed to do that. Don't tell me to go and live in Turkey because whether you like it or not Cyprus is my home and 37% is dedicated to me. Who we let in and in what numbers is up to us. If you refuse to acknowledge the part that both Armenians and Greeks played in this affair then the Republic of Cyprus can go to hell. The propaganda against the Turks has come to a head and cannot be told from just one side that chooses to distort all the facts. If your Makarios had not done the stupid things that he did there would be no reason for this conversation. What happened in 1974 was a direct action against an aggressor. Because you lost what you started does not make you the victim. They and you are the guilty ones. They for killing hundreds of Turkish Cypriots and you for spreading the lies. The lies like the majority vote of Cypriots wanting ENOSIS. Lies like Nikos Sampson promising Turkish Cypriots safe passage out of a village and slaughtering the men and torturing the women in camps. The lie of signing the 1960 constitution and then ignoring it to oust the Turkish Cypriots. The Akritas plan , the plan for extermination of the Turkish Cypriot and the lies of Greek Cypriots washing their hands of it after its failure. The lies told to the EU over the Annan plan and the last minute manipulation of the people in the south to scupper the plan to gain more time and to hide the government of its real intentions and a thousand other lies your people have made up. You poor little victims all by your own hand. Don't worry, you want to play the blame game then go for it, it is too easy to shoot down now.You cannot hide all your guilt behind the refugees whether you are an Armenian or a Greek. Take your part in all this like a man and we can talk. I have taken all the blame I have to. I have posted it here and on other forums. We played our part and won and lost your lot need to stop acting like spoiled children and act like men and stop hiding behind your refugee mothers skirts. You want to have a war of words then come out of hiding and show us your scars....................be brave. |
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RudeGal
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| You cant say that just because we rejected the annan plan, that we reject unification. That is wrong. |
I did not say that. Isaid I agree with lord M that Greek Cypriots have lost right to keep Turkish Cypriots under isolation. Do you disagree with this?
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| And you say that we only want to deal with Turkey...well to be honest, even if we did just deal with teh Turkish Cypriots, would we really, or would the leadership essentially be a puppet of Turkeys desires (ie military bases etc! amongst other things)? Turkey is always the one who calls the cyprob a national issue, rahter than an issue of the Turkish Cypriots ''who Turkey support''...what bloody right to they have to meddle in the affairs of cypriots!?!? |
Then don't give them (Turkey) the leverage. Get your politicians to deal with our politicians direct and empower Turkish Cypriots. But of course, that is not your politicians' end goal, quite the contrary. Please let's get real! |
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RudeGal
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| Imo if it wasn't for EU then no Anan plan would exist, not any other plan. Anyway the side that puts the most pressure for negotiations is the Greek Cypriot side, for many Turkish Cypriots the Cuprob was solved in 74 but now that Cyprus is in the EU, well you want both the benefits of EU and and a form of solution that will maximise your benefits ignoring some fair demands of the Greek Cypriots such as return of refugees, quarantee that Turkish troops will move out and other... and again Greek Cypriot said no to Anan plan and no to that specific plan not a no to a solution. |
Hey, we can go back to year dot if that helps? But I think not.
As you know, Annan Plan would have put right the bulk of many Greek Cypriot ills - Turkish forces gone bar no. from 1960 agreement, refugees of both sides to have some form of compensation or right of return (it is Greek Cypriot side fault for building up false hope that all refugees will go home, when they spent last 30 years negotiating for a BBF). It is Greek Cypriot democratic right to say no, but having said no, they cannot expect world to stand impassive to plight of Turkish Cypriots, who never had/have deserved to be under embargoes.
And if EU accepts whole island within its broders, is it not fair to assume Turkish Cypriots should also benefit? Or would you prefer EU frontier to be at Green Line? |
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