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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my absolute favourites.
Now that I read it again, I think you could also apply it to the situation in Cyprus.... Or maybe not?

One (by Bono, U2)

Is it getting better, or do you feel the same?
Will it make it easier on you, now you got someone to blame?
You say one love, one life, when it's one need in the night.
One love, we get to share it
Leaves you baby if you don't care for it.

Did I disappoint you or leave a bad taste in your mouth?
You act like you never had love and you want me to go without.
Well, it's too late tonight to drag the past out into the light.
We're one, but we're not the same.
We get to carry each other, carry each other... one

Have you come here for forgiveness,
Have you come to raise the dead
Have you come here to play Jesus to the lepers in your head
Did I ask too much, more than a lot
You gave me nothing, now it's all I got.
We're one, but we're not the same.
Well, we hurt each other, then we do it again.

You say love is a temple, love a higher law
Love is a temple, love the higher law.
You ask me to enter, but then you make me crawl
And I can't be holding on to what you got, when all you got is hurt.

One love, one blood, one life, you got to do what you should.
One life with each other: sisters, brothers.
One life, but we're not the same.
We get to carry each other, carry each other.
One, one.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bananiot wrote:
I made a rough translation of the lyrics of a song written by Doros Georgiades some five years ago and sung by Michalis Hadjiyiannis. Its titled "Dirty Wall".


Bananiot, what's the title of this song in Greek? I'd like to try and find it.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vromiko toixos, cheers.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A small plea from my favorite poet:

PLEA

This country shaped like the head of a mare
Coming full gallop from far off Asia
To stretch into the Mediterranean
THIS COUNTRY IS OURS.

Bloody wrists, clenched teeth
bare feet,
Land like a precious silk carpet
THIS HELL, THIS PARADISE IS OURS.

Let the doors be shut that belong to others
Let them never open again
Do away with the enslaving of man by man
THIS PLEA IS OURS.

To live! Like a tree alone and free
Like a forest in brotherhood
THIS YEARNING IS OURS.

Nazim Hikmet
(1902-1963)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nazim Hikmet Died in exile in Russia in 1963.
Various requests for his remains to be brought to Turkey and buried according to this wish has been denied by various governments... Crying or Very sad


LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT

Comrades, if I don't live to see the day
- I mean,if I die before freedom comes -
take me away
and bury me in a village cemetery in Anatolia.

The worker Osman whom Hassan Bey ordered shot
can lie on one side of me, and on the other side
the martyr Aysha, who gave birth in the rye
and died inside of forty days.

Tractors and songs can pass below the cemetery -
in the dawn light, new people, the smell of burnt gasoline,
fields held in common, water in canals,
no drought or fear of the police.

Of course, we won't hear those songs:
the dead lie stretched out underground
and rot like black branches,
deaf, dumb, and blind under the earth.

But, I sang those songs
before they were written,
I smelled the burnt gasoline
before the blueprints for the tractors were drawn.

As for my neighbors,
the worker Osman and the martyr Aysha,
they felt the great longing while alive,
maybe without even knowing it.

Comrades, if I die before that day, I mean
- and it's looking more and more likely -
bury me in a village cemetery in Anatolia,
and if there's one handy,
a plane tree could stand at my head,
I wouldn't need a stone or anything.

Nazim Hikmet, 27 April 1953
Moscow, Barviha Hospital
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent staff, Birkibrisli, from a worthy son of Turkey.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cannedmoose wrote:
Bananiot wrote:
I made a rough translation of the lyrics of a song written by Doros Georgiades some five years ago and sung by Michalis Hadjiyiannis. Its titled "Dirty Wall".


Bananiot, what's the title of this song in Greek? I'd like to try and find it.


I think I have the CD.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? Not many people do. I think its a beautiful song, with excellent lyrics.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bananiot wrote:
Excellent staff, Birkibrisli, from a worthy son of Turkey.




Another of my favorite poems from Nazim Hikmet,especially for you, dear Bananiot... Smile
SOME ADVICE TO THOSE WHO WILL SERVE TIME IN PRISON

If instead of being hanged by the neck
you're thrown inside
for not giving up hope
in the world, your country, your people,
if you do ten or fifteen years
apart from the time you have left,
you won't say,
``Better I had swung from the end of a rope
like a flag'' -
You'll put your foot down and live.
It may not be a pleasure exactly,
but it's your solemn duty
to live one more day
to spite the enemy.
Part of you may live alone inside,
like a tone at the bottom of a well.
But the other part
must be so caught up
in the flurry of the world
that you shiver there inside
when outside, at forty days' distance, a leaf moves.
To wait for letters inside,
to sing sad songs,
or to lie awake all night staring at the ceiling
is sweet but dangerous.
Look at your face from shave to shave,
forget your age,
watch out for lice
and for spring nights,
and always remember
to eat every last piece of bread-
also, don't forget to laugh heartily.
And who knows,
the woman you love may stop loving you.
Don't say it's no big thing:
it's like the snapping of a green branch
to the man inside.
To think of roses and gardens inside is bad,
to think of seas and mountains is good.
Read and write without rest,
and I also advise weaving
and making mirrors.
I mean, it's not that you can't pass
ten or fifteen years inside
and more -
you can,
as long as the jewel
on the left side of your chest doesn't lose it's luster!

Nazim Hikmet - May 1949

Trans. by Randy Blasing and Mutlu Konuk
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great contributions Bir, keep em comin.



TAIL SONG

We can't come together, our ways are different
You're a butcher's cat, I'm an alley cat
Your food comes in a tin bowl
Mine is in the lion's mouth
You dream of love, I of a bone

But your way isn't easy either, brother
It's no easy job
To lick the man's hand every damn day

Orhan Veli Kanik
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Part of you may live alone inside,
like a stone at the bottom of a well"


This is one of the best poetic metaphors that i have read in years....
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zan wrote:
Great contributions Bir, keep em comin.



TAIL SONG

We can't come together, our ways are different
You're a butcher's cat, I'm an alley cat
Your food comes in a tin bowl
Mine is in the lion's mouth
You dream of love, I of a bone

But your way isn't easy either, brother
It's no easy job
To lick the man's hand every damn day

Orhan Veli Kanik


This is why veli is one of my favourite poets....
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And this one is for you,dear Alexios...

I buy old clothes.
I buy old clothes and cut them into stars.
Music is the food of love.
I love music.

I write poetry.
I write poetry and buy old clothes.
I sell old clothes and buy music;
If I could also be a fish in a bottle of booze...


Orhan Veli
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for "booze" substitute "zivania" Exclamation Smile Smile Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zan wrote:
Great contributions Bir, keep em comin.



TAIL SONG

We can't come together, our ways are different
You're a butcher's cat, I'm an alley cat
Your food comes in a tin bowl
Mine is in the lion's mouth
You dream of love, I of a bone

But your way isn't easy either, brother
It's no easy job
To lick the man's hand every damn day

Orhan Veli Kanik



And this one for you,dear Zan...

REPLY

From the butcher's cat to the alley cat

You speak of hunger
That means you're communist
That means you burned down all those buildings
The ones in Istanbul
The ones in Ankara.

What a swine you are!

Orhan Veli Kanik
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