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Xenos 2Fan
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

petethegreek wrote:
Can someone tell me if the death rate was higher with Saddam in charge or Bush?


Depends if you count the collateral damage or not. I can not display a source for this but last I heard their civilian deaths were somewhere north of 100000 since the war started.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2Fan wrote:
petethegreek wrote:
Can someone tell me if the death rate was higher with Saddam in charge or Bush?


Depends if you count the collateral damage or not. I can not display a source for this but last I heard their civilian deaths were somewhere north of 100000 since the war started.



Wow that is a huge figure. Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sure Sadam probably killed more people, but the average per year(dont like to put it that way Sad ) is probably higher with bush!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brother wrote:
2Fan wrote:
petethegreek wrote:
Can someone tell me if the death rate was higher with Saddam in charge or Bush?


Depends if you count the collateral damage or not. I can not display a source for this but last I heard their civilian deaths were somewhere north of 100000 since the war started.



Wow that is a huge figure. Shocked


That came from a report which, in my opinion, The Lancet (where it appeared) should not have published.

It quoted a median of 100,000 and a 95% confidence range of 92,000. In other words, there was a 95% probability that the actual figure was between 8,000 and 192,000; as far as I am concerned the authors might as well have put a finger in the air given the breadth of uncertainty.

(Of course, journalists and columnists don't understand statistics and quite blithely state "100,000" as though there was no uncertainty).

Haven't looked at the Iraq Body Count site recently, but last I saw was around 25,000. That was arrived at by tallying up corroborated media accounts (in other words, 2 or more sources).

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