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Khan
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Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 1092 Location: London
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Yeah, and a quarter of Iran is Turkish anyway  |
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 2152 Location: a cypriot in canada
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I dont know any other people who would jump about on the street and wave their Turkish flags after a 0-0 draw with Greece...because seeing thousands of Greeks on the streets a few months earlier waving their Greek flags after the Euro Champs win burned them inside so much.
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| The only thing burning is obviously you. The average turk couldnt give a crap taht greece won the Euro champ, we really dont give two cents about you, get that into youre head. You are the ones who seem to be obssesed with us. Besides, we have been gowing around with flags for several decades now after matches, did you honestly think that we started celebrating football after we saw you celebrating and we got jealous? Are you actually so thick? You really have outdone yourself with the above analysis. The elderley in my local kafenio come up with more credible opinions than youres. |
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The motive is dialog (disscussion at least), DLS, frankly you have a readership beyond fanatics, you may be sly but you are uncanny at unravelling your adversery, in this debate you are not thinking. I suggest most respectfully that you express yourself for our benefit, rather than this pettiness.
Please...stick to the facts...nothing personal but these kind of generalisation bandied about is why all of us are getting nowhere. And what does it prove, but a lack of grace. Try to share, try to work together, choose to say nothing, and to be the better person, be careful, if you want to rabble rouse, then use the personal message function, or meet in the chat room if you like to 'do it' in groups.
As for credibility...
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| That says it all for the validity of the eye witness statements |
Turkey needs credibility, and it is more than likely that things will get worse. Cyprus, and the Kurdish issue are not exceptional incidences of failure in this modern secular state. Choose wisely cent percent. This insensitive comment is what started this. It is a most revealing behaviour for someone who uses the word cypriot in their avatar.
Mr. Turkkan, please, help. Speak plainly, use your terrific reason, ignore exagerations, and remember it is easy to be unlike this prejudice which affects us.
As for sticking to the topic, I think that the Turkish Army is using us in their experiments at social engineering, and it is the same experiment going on from the Ottoman Empire. As a formula, their endeavours seems to work, because of its repeatability. However all things come to an end, as we know from the law of entropy. Is it possible for this State to reform, to change and to adapt, to lead, with a world where news is instaneous, and that the liberty of all people is in equality? Can Turkey be a world leader? Can Turkey be giving? Frankly I am hoping so, but I believe that its epiphany is not in sight. |
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100%cypriot Warnings : 4 Ministerial

Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 2181
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| That says it all for the validity of the eye witness statements |
That says it all that your name '100% Cypriot' is a total deception.
Your another narrow minded Turk who refuses to accept what the rest of the middle east see's in the ethics of the people who run the Turkish state. |
D_L_S i only expect you to reply to me when i give you permission. at this moment in time you are still talking like your hero GRIVAS so when you have enough sense i may choose to give you that permission, so untill then SHUT THE F**K UP |
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Bananiot Warnings : 1 Deputy

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 1244 Location: Nicosia
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Everything was a fabrication. Read all about it in today's "Politis" newspaper. Gregory Copley is a christian bigot and has supported all atrocities committed by christians recently, including the Sreprenica massacre by the Serbs. He is a close friend of Papadopoulos and he is on the pay roll of the our government. His organisation (International Strategic Studies Association) is nothing but a fake. It comprises of only ONE person! Himself!
This unbelievable story has had already one victim. The father of a missing person who died of a heart attack upon reading the story.
What a mess. Are we the only african nation in the EU? |
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Birkibrisli
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Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 1466 Location: Australia
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Everything was a fabrication. Read all about it in today's "Politis" newspaper. Gregory Copley is a christian bigot and has supported all atrocities committed by christians recently, including the Sreprenica massacre by the Serbs. He is a close friend of Papadopoulos and he is on the pay roll of the our government. His organisation (International Strategic Studies Association) is nothing but a fake. It comprises of only ONE person! Himself!
This unbelievable story has had already one victim. The father of a missing person who died of a heart attack upon reading the story.
What a mess. Are we
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Can you give us a summary of what the Politis article says,Bananiot?
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I really hope that there is no truth in these reports,Crash.
Otherwise I will resign my membership of the human race...
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Bananiot Warnings : 1 Deputy

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 1244 Location: Nicosia
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It is an article that covers two newspapers and it is well documented, Birkibrisli. I will gladly give you a summary but just wait until Monday. Perhaps the Cyprus Mail will take the lead and save me the time.
Here is a link for the Greek speaking. Its titled "dirty games with the missing"
http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb?-A=670412&-V=articles&-p |
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Birkibrisli
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Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 1466 Location: Australia
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Thanks,Bananiot...
I wish I had kept going with the Greek lessons I started back in the 80s...  |
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Bananiot Warnings : 1 Deputy

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 1244 Location: Nicosia
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Evagoras
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Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 118
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Everything was a fabrication. Read all about it in today's "Politis" newspaper. Gregory Copley is a christian bigot and has supported all atrocities committed by christians recently, including the Sreprenica massacre by the Serbs. He is a close friend of Papadopoulos and he is on the pay roll of the our government. His organisation (International Strategic Studies Association) is nothing but a fake. It comprises of only ONE person! Himself!
This unbelievable story has had already one victim. The father of a missing person who died of a heart attack upon reading the story.
What a mess. Are we the only african nation in the EU? |
if our goverment havent said that this information must be checked and we must be carefull with this kind of information because we must think the relatives of the missing persons and started accussing turkey for that report then Republic of Cyprus was going to be the only african nation in the eu |
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cypezokyli
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Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2344
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it is true that the goverment was careful.
but we should also admit, that some didnot miss the opportunity to allow some cosmetic adjectives in their comments
especially after the same people in the same sentence said that we should be careful with this report ! |
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turkkan
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Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 198
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WASHINGTON-BASED super-journalist Michalis Ignatiou has struck again with another myth, packaged as an authoritative news-story. His latest mega-scoop alleged that Greeks and Greek Cypriots missing since 1974 had been used human guinea pigs for the testing of chemical weapons by the Turkish military, between 1984 and ’88.
This was the lead story on the Mega TV news a week last Saturday and in Phileleftheros the following day. The self-important Ignatiou also appeared on a radio show to talk about his shocking findings the next morning. There was about as much evidence to back these revelations as there was for his claims that many millions of bucks had been paid to Greek Cypriots by the Yanks during the referendum.
The source of the mega-scoop was an American nutcase conspiracy theorist by the name of Gregory Copley, who runs a US-based joke of an organisation called the ‘International Strategic Studies Association’ that nobody with half a brain would take seriously. The Association publishes a journal, Defense and Foreign Affairs Strategy Policy, which even those with no brain would not take seriously.
Ignatiou, on the other hand, has a fully operating whole brain, so why did he take Copley’s claims seriously, causing unnecessary distress to the relatives of the missing. Had these unfortunate people not suffered enough over the last 32 years without having to be served with more unsubstantiated claims guaranteed to cause anguish and pain?
Copley admitted he had no concrete evidence to back his guinea pig claims, so why did Ignatiou feel obliged to report them insist that they had been confirmed. The two points his allegations were trying to make – that the Turks are bloodthirsty barbarians capable of all types of savagery and that Ignatiou is the greatest journalist ever produced by Cyprus – have already been proved beyond reasonable doubt. So why cause pain to the relatives of the missing by repeating them?
GREGORY Copley is a darling of our Ethnarch’s government, with several of his articles posted on the website of our embassy in Washington. One internet writer, said “the ISSA is an archconservative US group providing conspiracy theories and thwarted strategic analyses to those wanting this input.”
The same writer described Copley, as “a self-styled ‘strategic analyst’ whose favourite projects include downplaying Serbian slaughtering of Muslims in the Yugoslavian war and maximising the security threat against the United States by Islamist groups and the axis of evil.”
The most recent predictions by ISSA’s Defense and Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy journal was that there would have been a regional crisis last September extending from the Aegean to north Kurdistan. The August 2006 issue of the rag spoke of an attack by Turkey on northern Iraq on September 10 and a “settling of accounts with Greece and Cyprus”. There was also a possibility that Turkey would attack Greece to end Greek control of the Aegean Sea. It suffices to say that today is October 29 and none of the great strategic analyst’s predictions have materialised.
Copley may be a nutcase, but he has quite a following among our intelligentsia. Apart from Ignatiou, the President of the American Hellenic Institute Gene Rossides is also a great fan, describing the ISSA journal as “highly authoritative”. He had invited Copley to attend several of the Institute’s seminars, at which the great man spoke about his conspiracy theories.
Another fan of Copley’s is the Director General of the Intercollege Reasearch department, Professor Dr Andreas Theophanous, whose picture attending an ISSA seminar is featured on the Association’s website. I think enough said.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=28710&cat_id=7 |
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Chapfallen Warnings : 7 Senior Villager

Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 464
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| our goverment havent said that this information must be checked and we must be carefull with this kind of information because we must think the relatives of the missing persons and started accussing turkey for that report then Republic of Cyprus was going to be the only african nation in the eu |
No we are not an African nation in the Eu but we are the first Arab nation in Eu.
I had believed this when I firstly hear it because I didn’t hear what the creator is the super journalist Ignatiou who was responsible for the UNOPS issue in the report from USA.
We are super ridiculous and the first responsible is our super ridiculous government and our super ridiculous media that supports them.
While some assholes like Koutsou Rikkos and Tzionis(Papad testicle) keep accusing the UN and try to found traitors. All this pathetic persons must shoot them self’s, if someone take them to court about their crimes they will justified because of idiocy.
They are a dickhead apes. |
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100%cypriot Warnings : 4 Ministerial

Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 2181
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It is very sad that one elderly Greek Cypriot man had a heart attack upon hearing this rubbish and died. How pointless a loss of life if ever their was. He had lived in hope that his son was alive and one day he would find him again but the news disturbed this man too much and it killed him.
Will there ever be remorse in the people who started to spread this story ? i wonder |
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zan Warnings : 2 Mukhtar/is

Joined: 31 Dec 2005 Posts: 962
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It is very sad that one elderly Greek Cypriot man had a heart attack upon hearing this rubbish and died. How pointless a loss of life if ever their was. He had lived in hope that his son was alive and one day he would find him again but the news disturbed this man too much and it killed him.
Will there ever be remorse in the people who started to spread this story ? i wonder |
Some times you just want to give up on the whole fucking human race. |
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 2152 Location: a cypriot in canada
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| A man died from this terrible news, untrue, and unfounded? Such malice has its recourse judiciously, in the USA, and I hope that it is persued. |
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