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pg
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You'll need to read up...
There was a case in a Nicosia court, but since the British settlers does not have any assets in the areas controlled by the Republic of Cyprus the ruling needs to be implemented in the UK. |
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-mikkie2-
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This case has highlighted that there are roughly 14000 Britons that have illegally bought Greek Cypriot property in the north.
When the case is heard by the European Court its conclusions will set a precedent which will affect all these people.
Now, do we seriously think that the ECJ will come up with a clear cut interpretation of Protocol 10 which would be in favour of the Greek Cypriot refugees?
Lets not also forget that this ruling will also affect the other 25 member states of the EU. I myself am not confident that the ECJ will make a clearcut ruling |
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depurple
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Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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What I cant understand?
There is SO MUCH Turkish Cypriot land in the North WHY on Earth sell stolen Greek Cypriot properties that where made abandon by the point of a Turkish gun!
Didn't anyone think about selling the POMS legal Turkish Cypriot land and avoiding the current headaches???
Even thou most Turkish Cypriot knew that it is wrong and it is illegal and against ALL principles of rules and regulations they still did it and sadly are STILL doing it?
JUST sell your own Turkish Cypriot land to the POMS and forget the QUICK BUCK TODAY THINKING!
Surly there are Turkish Cypriot who will sell their legally owned land to the POMS!
What was Denktash plan?
Sell the Greek Cypriot land to the Poms cheap and the POMS like Cherie Blair will support the Turkish Cypriot Independence and latter a state?
OR was Denktash plan to line his and his mates pockets with MONEY before everyone woke up to his corrupt ways?
Well maybe the Turkish Cypriot can answer this?
How in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus became rich out of all this LAND corruption?
Only a few my friends!
And we ALL know who they are!
Wake up and Pay compensation to the Greek Cypriot who have lost there land and also to the POMS who where deputed into buying stolen land and the sooner this is done the sooner we can all go back to being civilized and NOT self centered Today PEOPLE:
cheers!
PS As you know all this also applies to ALL the corrupt bastards in the Republic of Cyprus who not only ripped the Turkish Cypriot land but also build on archaeological sites and also in the green belts areas of Arkama!
DP! |
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PAul
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Joined: 10 Oct 2005
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It’s a very sad fact of life, but terrible things like this happen all over the world, at the end of the day; it’s the innocent people who lose everything that you really have to feel sorry for!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/investigates/2007/06/21/nothing-in-site-for-villa-victims-89520-19331016/
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ON paper it looked like a great deal. A property in the sun for half the market price and all you have to do in return is let the developer rent the place for six months a year for 10 years.
When the 10 years is up the house in Cyprus would be yours for good. Unsurprisingly, there were plenty of takers who poured in nearly £3million between them.
Two years later, the four sites around Paphos are still just that - building sites.
The developer Ian Beaumont has done a runner and some victims don't even own the land he left behind. Scores of Brits shelled out on average £60,000 towards the final cost of the properties. What they got is worth far less.
Peter Bayliss, from Southampton, paid a deposit of £48,000 for a three-bedroom townhouse.
"We did all the research we could and were assured that he had built previous developments and would deliver. But two years down the line there is still no sign of building."
Dave Goodman, of Desborough, Northants, also paid £48,000 and said: "I've lost the lot."
Jon Fox, from Huddersfield, West Yorks, paid £75,000 for his house but says he has no idea what happened to his money: "There's a trail of lies and deceit."
Some victims paid their money into the account of Beaumont's firm J&I Estates at the Birmingham branch of Laiki Bank.
BUT most paid their deposits into a UK account held by J&I's "sole agents" Peter Stephenson Properties.
Andrew Nolan was PSP's Paphos branch manager at the time and insists he was not to blame. He says J&I built its offices in Paphos and came highly recommended.
Nolan added that individual investors were responsible for hiring their own solicitor to check whether the prices were fair and if the land and building permits were secure.
We last met Nolan four years ago, after he was banned from serving as a company director for the maximum possible 15 years.
A judge then branded Nolan a "complete fraudster" after his insurance company One Call Insure Direct went bust with debts of £2.3m.
Accountants found a £722,000 black hole in the company's accounts but Nolan had fled to his villa in Cyprus.
He'd already clocked up a four-year boardroom ban in 1993 when his CCTV outfit Crimewatch (UK) was shut down with debts of £100,000.
Now working in the UK as PSP's development manager, Nolan says it banked £2.2m for J&I but passed it all on Beaumont.
He says he was due to earn 10 per cent commission but actually only got 6.7 per cent before J&I went under.
"It is not unusual for late delivery of properties and several other developers are currently a year or more late in delivering homes," he adds.
Hardly what you want to hear from your estate agent but neither is this: "The clients have not lost all their money but it is horribly tied up in the land and will be some time, probably years, before it is all sorted out."
He says that a deal is being hammered out for victims to get their money back at some point. We'd love to speak to Beaumont about this and we're not the only ones.
We know that he admitted to investors last November that he didn't have enough money left to build their homes.
According to Nolan, Beaumont blamed Cypriots for delays and spiralling costs. Beaumont is apparently in the Czech Republic, starting a new life. Unlike his victims. |
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100%cypriot
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| Thats funny , i was just reading about that in the daily mirror |
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depurple
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Boys IT goes to prove one thing!
Doest matter ON which side of the boarder you are there is always someone MAKING Dirty money and others getting screwed with a pineapple!
cheers!
PS Any Pineapple in Cyprus? If not make that a melon! OUCH! |
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Orams won?
...it's not over, and this is good news except for those whose homes are built on land that belongs to others,,,
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European Court blow for Orams
By Philippos Stylianou
AT the European Court of Justice yesterday, Greek Cypriot refugee Meletis Apostolides took a step closer to winning his case against the British couple who built a house on his land in the occupied part of Cyprus.
The final outcome of the case is set to have a far-reaching effect on the issue of Greek Cypriot properties in the Turkish-occupied north of the island.
In 2005, a Cypriot court ordered David and Linda Orams to demolish the villa and pay compensation to the owner. Apostolides applied to the London High Court under an EU regulation to have the decision enforced against the Orams’ property in the UK.
The British Court held that this could not be done, since the application of European law had been suspended in the part of the island not controlled by the Cyprus government.
Apostolides turned to the British Court of Appeal, which referred the crucial points of the case to the European Court of Justice for a preliminary ruling.
In a sweeping recommendation to the Grand Chamber of the European Court of Justice, the Court’s Advocate General, Julianne Kokkott, yesterday answered all five points referred to it an a positive way for Apostolides.
If the 13 judges of the Grand Chamber follow her recommendation, the British judicial authorities would be obliged to enforce the Cyprus court decision against the Orams.
The couple were not present in Luxemburg to hear Kokott read out her recommendation. Apostolides attended with his lawyer Constantis Candounas. The British couple were represented by their Turkish Cypriot counsel.
The Cyprus Attorney General, Petros Klerides, welcomed the Luxemburg recommendation, describing it as a very important development and noting that it fully adopted the arguments raised by Apostolides and the Republic of Cyprus.
He particularly stressed Kokott’s view that the case was one of civil law and therefore was not in any way affected by the so called “property compensation commission” in the occupied areas.
Kokott in her recommendation said that all EU member states were obliged to enforce the judgments of the Cyprus court even if the concerned property was situated in the part of the island not controlled by the government.
She explained that the British courts had to recognise the Cyprus court decision in the UK since this did not entail applying the EU regulation in the occupied part of the island. Only the UK courts need act, Kokott noted.
Furthermore, she said that although the talks for the solution of the Cyprus problem presented a noble cause, she could not see how the outcome of the case could affect them.
The ECJ top aide also recommended that the inability to enforce the decision of the Cyprus court in the occupied part of the island did not relieve the judicial authorities of the other member states of the obligation to recognise its international validity.
Finally, she observed that the Orams were given the opportunity to challenge Apostolides in the Cypriot courts and therefore no procedural arguments could be raised against enforcing the decision in the UK.
http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default.aspx?FrontPageID=304_1
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