Baklava is Cypriot, in as much as northen Cyprus is Turkish!

Kifeas · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject:

Return Cyprus to Turkey? Why? On what basis?

alicmacunu · Villager Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 7 Location: Hong Kong

city · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject:

alicmacunu, could you please refrain from writing in capital letters. It's considered shouting in Internet conversations (see Nettiquette).
Plus it adds nothing to your expressed opinion and is difficult to read. Thank you.

De_La_Soul · Deputy Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 1131

Birkibrisli · Deputy Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 1404 Location: Australia

There is a Turkish saying,Tatli yiyelim Tatli konusalim,which is roughly translated as "Lets eat sweet and talk sweet".Not many people in this thread know this saying from the look of things... Sad

repulsewarrior · Deputy Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1742 Location: Canada

May I remind you guys that the topic is food, politics is food for thought but it has nothing to do with the topic, here. Start a thread in the approriate forum, or at least try to be clever and add to the subject of cooking, by making it light, flaky, and sweet.

Bullika · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject:

DigenisAkritas · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:34 am Post subject:

The History of Cuisine is a notoriously difficult area of History to track because cuisine has a tendency to change dramatically over time with the input of things like foreign herbs and spices, especially in peace time when trade routes are busier with civilian traffic, also, you have to clarify what type of cuisine you are talking about - Are you talking about the cuisine of the Royal Court, the cuisine of the Mercantile Classes or the cuisine of the Lower Classes?

However, we can say this much, Baklava was a dish which probably originated in some form or another, in the fertile crescent (most probably with the Assyrians, who had a tradition of baking similar types of dishes - Though this was probably more of a 'proto' Baklava more than anything - something the Greeks used to call a type of 'Phyllo' pastry - owing to it's thiness), from then on we can find vague references (see Apicius) among Greek and Roman authors (it was probably brought through the Roman Empire through the Greek East - The Eastern half of the Empire always had a differing, more Hellenized cuisine to the Latinized Western half), however, it was in Byzantium where we first start to see it's reference pop up quite a lot. It was certainly eaten a lot throughout Byzantine times, by not just the Royal Court but also wealthier members of the Mercantile class. However, it changed dramatically throughout this period.

The position of Byzantium meant the opportunities for regional interaction were far and wide. The Armenians certainly had some impact, most probably with Cinammon, because a lot of their food was famed for having Cinammon in it. The arabs probably had an impact too. When the Ottomans occupied ever increasing areas of Anatolia they appropriated the dish and it became a staple of their Royal Court.

For more information on the Greek roots of Turkish cuisine, please see Dr. Andrew Dalby's "Flavours of Byzantium."

DigenisAkritas · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:36 am Post subject:

cypezokyli · Ministerial Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2344

oh no !!!
not again!!!!

re you have been warned 1000 times. Rolling Eyes

DigenisAkritas · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:49 am Post subject:

Birkibrisli · Deputy Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 1404 Location: Australia