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cypezokyli
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eric, are you interested in joining any forum meetings - or are you afraid?
should we, call the police on the london meeting ? just imagine how dangerous it is going to be for those poor Turkish Cypriots that will meet with the average Greek Cypriots who are more or less by definition "turk haters" ? |
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Eric Dayi
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| cypezokyli wrote: |
| eric, are you interested in joining any forum meetings - or are you afraid? |
You got to be joking cypez and yes, I am afraid because should I attend a meeting I would say exactly the same thing as I do here and a lot of people are not going to like it as they do not like it here.
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| should we, call the police on the london meeting ? just imagine how dangerous it is going to be for those poor Turkish Cypriots that will meet with the average Greek Cypriots who are more or less by definition "turk haters" ? |
Those who agree to meet are of the same thoughts with one another and have nothing to fear. But let one or two Turkish Cypriot's change their minds about unification and dare to say it out loud in front of the Greek Cypriot's and see what happens. Do you think they'll still stay "friends"? Just imagine Kiefeas or Delasol is there or people who are just as aggressive.
Would you like me to come to one of your meetings and throw everything you say back into your face? Somehow I don't think I'd be made welcomed. |
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cypezokyli
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we ll just eat and drink eric.
theres no way you can brake your stereotypes unless you try. just try it for f***s sake. |
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Eric Dayi
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| cypezokyli wrote: |
| we ll just eat and drink eric. |
guten apetite. (Enjoy)
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| theres no way you can brake your stereotypes unless you try. just try it for f***s sake. |
My "stereotype" was forced upon me by the Greek Cypriot's from 1963 onwards when they tried to kill me, my family and my people. We have been kept under embargoes and isolated for 43 years. Now they are trying to make me believe that I am not a Turkish Cypriot but only a Cypriot but make no moves to sit at the negotiation table, well, thanks but no thanks. |
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cypezokyli
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come and we promise that tpap will not be present 
as for your history class its not wrong, but as usual its only half of the story
eric, my grandfather was just a farmer. he was not a member of either eoka, he never had fights with Turkish Cypriots, and still one day was forced ot of his house. thats more or less the story of 95% of refugees, be it Greek Cypriots or Turkish Cypriots. dont i have the right to have stereotypes ? with this logic almost all of us have the right to stereotypes. if i am not mistaken, u r married with a german. the germans 2-3 generations ago, supported one of the worst regimes in the history of mankind. its of those things that we get over. even today, i bet if you really want to find cases, you can find discrimination against turkish immigrants here and there. i know about a stupid questioneer against muslims in the bundesland i currently live in. does that, represent the average german, eric ? does their past represent the average german ? does a stupid or racist if you want decision from a regional goverment represents the average german ? is dhavlos who forced the embargoes on you ? are you the occupier of my grandfathers house ?
try to make the distinction between politics and people. and as i said - just try. what are you so afraid of ? |
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Eric Dayi
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| cypezokyli wrote: |
| come and we promise that tpap will not be present |
Then I am definitly not coming. If my best friend was invited, I'd be there like a shot to shake his hand.
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as for your history class its not wrong, but as usual its only half of the story
eric, my grandfather was just a farmer. he was not a member of either eoka, he never had fights with Turkish Cypriots, and still one day was forced ot of his house. thats more or less the story of 95% of refugees, be it Greek Cypriots or Turkish Cypriots. dont i have the right to have stereotypes ? with this logic almost all of us have the right to stereotypes. if i am not mistaken, u r married with a german. the germans 2-3 generations ago, supported one of the worst regimes in the history of mankind. its of those things that we get over. even today, i bet if you really want to find cases, you can find discrimination against turkish immigrants here and there. i know about a stupid questioneer against muslims in the bundesland i currently live in. does that, represent the average german, eric ? does their past represent the average german ? does a stupid or racist if you want decision from a regional goverment represents the average german ? is dhavlos who forced the embargoes on you ? are you the occupier of my grandfathers house ?
try to make the distinction between politics and people. and as i said - just try. what are you so afraid of ? |
cypez, give up, I have made up my mind and nothing is ever going to change it. The best way that everyone will feel safe to go to sleep at nights is that each side has it's own territory that we can call our home, our own country, anything else will be explosive. It's about time you woke up to this fact and unless you want to see a return to the 60's you'll give up on the idea of unification.
You said yourself that you have seen a significant change in the Turkish Cypriot's who were for unification at the referendum, so it's not just me you have to worry about, it's the majority of the Turkish Cypriot's who now are all for partition. |
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repulsewarrior
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ERIC:
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| There is no survival for us Turkish Cypriot's in a Greek Cypriot controlled country. |
What Cypriot would disagree with you? What does Bi-zonal mean?
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| Now they are trying to make me believe that I am not a Turkish Cypriot but only a Cypriot but make no moves to sit at the negotiation table, well, thanks but no thanks. |
No one is telling you that you are not Turkish Cypriot. They are saying that you can be a Cypriot as well.
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| "Taksim" was put aside when we signed tand entered the 1960 constitution but was again brought back to life after the hundreds of years ENOSIS dream of the Greek Cypriot's was started in a brutal and bloody extermination of the Turkish Cypriots |
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Eric, please don't twist facts again, the truth is horrible enough. You ignore the fact that Makarios thwarted the intentions of the interlocutors who wanted to divide the island, because his motive remained the same but his realisation was that this desire for self determination would be extinguished to the benefit of those who did not have a sincere interest in the plight of his people. You say 'Takism' died with our independance, but is this true, for Turkey, who continues to promote its ideals? |
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Eric Dayi
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| repulsewarrior wrote: |
ERIC:
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| There is no survival for us Turkish Cypriot's in a Greek Cypriot controlled country. |
What Cypriot would disagree with you? What does Bi-zonal mean? |
Partition and recognition of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus would make me and load of other Turkish Cypriots a whole lot happier and make us feel a whole lot safer too.
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| Now they are trying to make me believe that I am not a Turkish Cypriot but only a Cypriot but make no moves to sit at the negotiation table, well, thanks but no thanks. |
No one is telling you that you are not Turkish Cypriot. They are saying that you can be a Cypriot as well. |
It is very obvious that you either do not read all the postings or ignore them on purpose.
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| "Taksim" was put aside when we signed and entered the 1960 constitution but was again brought back to life after the hundreds of years ENOSIS dream of the Greek Cypriot's was started in a brutal and bloody extermination of the Turkish Cypriots |
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Eric, please don't twist facts again, the truth is horrible enough. You ignore the fact that Makarios thwarted the intentions of the interlocutors who wanted to divide the island, because his motive remained the same but his realisation was that this desire for self determination would be extinguished to the benefit of those who did not have a sincere interest in the plight of his people. |
Makarios didn't want the island divided because ENOSIS could not be achieved on a divided island. He didn't give a damn about the Turkish Cypriots and wanted nothing less than to eliminate us. He admitted to this:
[quote = "Makarios"] Makarios:
Until this Turkish community forming part of the Turkish race that has been the terrible enemy of Hellenism is expelled, the duty of the heroes of EOKA can never be considered terminated."[/quote]
Go on, tell me that it is not true and it's the invention of the "Turkish propaganda machine".
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| You say 'Takism' died with our independance, but is this true, for Turkey, who continues to promote its ideals? |
You know something, up until now it never bothered me that I cannot speak or write in Greek but right now I wished that I could so that maybe you can for once undestand what I write. I can't so I'll just have to repeat what I have said in the hope that you do not have an Ouzo bottle in your hand when you read it again.
[quote = "Erid Dayi and what he said in his last posting"]"Taksim" was put aside when we signed and entered the 1960 constitution but was again brought back to life after the hundreds of years ENOSIS dream of the Greek Cypriot's was started in a brutal and bloody extermination of the Turkish Cypriots[/quote].
I am keeping my fingers crossed but will not hold my breath. |
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cypezokyli
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| cypez, give up, I have made up my mind and nothing is ever going to change it. |
dont use words like "nothing" or "ever" eric . "never" do that. bc you "never" know...
what are you so afraid of eric? |
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Eric Dayi
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Eric Dayi
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| cypezokyli wrote: |
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| cypez, give up, I have made up my mind and nothing is ever going to change it. |
dont use words like "nothing" or "ever" eric . "never" do that. bc you "never" know... |
Ok, I will never ever use the words "never" or "ever" but I can't promise 100% that I will never ever again use the word "nothing".
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| what are you so afraid of eric? |
"nothing".
Ooppps, sorry but but I did say I can't promise 100% never ever again to use the word "nothing".  |
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cypezokyli
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MicAtCyp
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| If he is re-elected then it will finally prove that the majority of Greek Cypriot's are right behind him and he is doing exactly what the Greek Cypriot's want …. |
Of course!
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| ….and that is either to rule the whole island on their own or failing that partition so that there will be no Turkish Cypriot's meddling in with their ruling of their country, am I right? |
No you are not! You are simply jumping into conclussions… |
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Eric Dayi
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| MicAtCyp wrote: |
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| If he is re-elected then it will finally prove that the majority of Greek Cypriot's are right behind him and he is doing exactly what the Greek Cypriot's want …. |
Of course!
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| ….and that is either to rule the whole island on their own or failing that partition so that there will be no Turkish Cypriot's meddling in with their ruling of their country, am I right? |
No you are not! You are simply jumping into conclussions… |
I have not concluded anything as yet Mic, I'll do the conclussion after the elections. But then I will not start my sentence with "if" and will not finish it with "am I right?" with a question mak at the end. |
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city
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| Eric Dayi wrote: |
| cypez, give up, I have made up my mind and nothing is ever going to change it. ...... |
erm, Eric, I wonder.... whats your reason then for participating in this forum? Why bother talking to Greek Cypriots and lots of other people that do not share your views? |
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