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repulsewarrior

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://mbarchives.blogspot.com/2006/02/eu-watch-turkey-upset-by-eu-deal-on-n.html

A little late, but news just the same.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Viewpoint wrote:
The fact that that is what is on the table and is acceptable to the international players plus of course Turkish Cypriots makes the BBF alternative ahead of other models, very close would to this would be recognized partition which is another form of solution, which imo will be the end result as 46 years is way more time to prove we will be unable to solve anything and live happily ever after that only happens in fairy tales, plus you have pushed us into the EU which brings in another 24 players not to forget Russia and China and the USA the scenario is becoming more and more complicated as the years go by and the desire for unification will fade as generations change.


Why are you getting confused dear Viewpoint? Do you realise that you just wrote a 10 line incomprehensible sentense?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MicAtCyp wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The fact that that is what is on the table and is acceptable to the international players plus of course Turkish Cypriots makes the BBF alternative ahead of other models, very close would to this would be recognized partition which is another form of solution, which imo will be the end result as 46 years is way more time to prove we will be unable to solve anything and live happily ever after that only happens in fairy tales, plus you have pushed us into the EU which brings in another 24 players not to forget Russia and China and the USA the scenario is becoming more and more complicated as the years go by and the desire for unification will fade as generations change.


Why are you getting confused dear Viewpoint? Do you realise that you just wrote a 10 line incomprehensible sentense?
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I apologies you are right, hope the following is slightly better and comprehensible.


The fact is that this is what is on the table and is acceptable to the international players plus of course Turkish Cypriots makes the BBF an alternative way ahead of other models. Very close behind to this would be recognized partition which is another form of solution, which imo will be the end result as 46 years is plenty of time to prove we will never be able to solve our differences and live happily ever after, that only happens in fairy tales. You have also pushed us into the arms of the EU which brings in another 24 players into the equation not to forget Russia and China and the USA the scenario is becoming more and more complicated as the years go by and the desire for unification will fade as generations change.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Viewpoint.
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repulsewarrior

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not me viewpoint, I'm not pushing anyone into anyone's arms, you've mistaken your adversery, I am only saying that people to live free, must have faith, and work for bettering themselves, bringing no harm to others. I know what BBF is and I was there before you were born, I guess, so let me tell you Cypriots of Turkish origin will want to return to Paphos, and everywhere else, some will stay and want to build for themselves new lives. That to me is more improtant to the fantasies, as you call them, utopian ideas like, everything is just right the way its is because i am normal and things are all right for me.

Take the money, and show you wont blow it, by building better roads, first. Want an airport, work to build trust, with your EU allies, open the ports, and even give back Varosha, make them look good, see what happens, if it is not encouraging then be prepared to give more, because it is always a game of equilibrium, the give and take, when it is not illusion, can change the balance of things.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

repulsewarrior wrote:
Not me viewpoint, I'm not pushing anyone into anyone's arms, you've mistaken your adversery, I am only saying that people to live free, must have faith, and work for bettering themselves, bringing no harm to others. I know what BBF is and I was there before you were born, I guess, so let me tell you Cypriots of Turkish origin will want to return to Paphos, and everywhere else, some will stay and want to build for themselves new lives. That to me is more improtant to the fantasies, as you call them, utopian ideas like, everything is just right the way its is because i am normal and things are all right for me.

Take the money, and show you wont blow it, by building better roads, first. Want an airport, work to build trust, with your EU allies, open the ports, and even give back Varosha, make them look good, see what happens, if it is not encouraging then be prepared to give more, because it is always a game of equilibrium, the give and take, when it is not illusion, can change the balance of things.


I respect your views but see no viability in them as you say you are old enough to comprehend that time erodes everything, the 2 communities have suffered in the past and do not want to look back let alone go back to the past meaning the 1960 agreements, the future Greek Cypriots don't want to share political power as per Annan plan, they are prepared to wait and pursue their Greek Cypriot version of a solution via the EU leverage game, which has brought another dimension to the problem and imo will complicate matters even further.

The money has never been issue repulse, you can have it with our blessing just as you have been doing for the past 46 years. We have roads, airports (which I must honestly say is much better than your Larnaka airport) schools etc, the real matter was to be allowed the freedoms that you take for granted in the south but deny us for the sake of holding us hostage in the hope that I will yield and want to unite with my tormentor or captors, well repulse maybe you should persuade your leadership what you preach to try build trust which is non existent between our communities and prove us wrong as so far all they do is confirm that we are right.
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