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pg
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I really do not know what you are sayiong PG. The EU pledged to end the Norths economic isolation as a result of us voting yes to the Annan plan and you voting no. That was the pledge. Now after abuse of the Republic of Cyprus position in the Eu, it seems the EU is saying we will make good on our promise to you but now you have to do more than when we initaslly promised it. Although we said we would end you isolation if you voted yes and Greek Cypriot voted no, now we are saying (after Republic of Cyprus blocking and pressure) we will end it (but not saying about direct flights) if you ALSO return varsoha AND hand over famagusta port to EU control (whatever that means?) AND place a moritorium on the sale of pre 74 Greek Cypriot property. Yep thanks EU - great deal and great way to inspire fisth from Northern Cypriots in EU pledges and their ability to be impartial and no subject to Republic of Cyprus blackmail.
As for destroying Greek Cypriot property, my house is on LAND that was Greek Cypriot before 74. Far form it being destroyed it has had a hpouse built on it an maintained and is in vastly better condition than it ever was. However in order to get an end to isolation - which was promised anyway by EU without futher consession - I must now accept that I can not sell this property. In return I get what? Will direct flights be allowed ? |
(I think you do understand what I am saying)
Also, I think all European countries agrees that it is not 'abuse' of ones rights in the EU when these are used on issues related to ones own country.
Now, the EU, incl Cyprus, is giving you the trade possibilities you need. The issues of property, Varosha, is no new demands - they have always been on you from Europe's side.
With regards to your house, I am sure what is meant is that no new building should be put up on Greek Cypriot land. |
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| Is it true that the direct trade issue has to be through the Greek Cypriot "Republic of Cyprus"? If so then that appears to be a non starter again. The EU are losing a lot of credibility in the north, maybe we should just tell them where to put their aid and tell them not to meddle in our affairs. |
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MicAtCyp
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| Tell them VP, tell them. Bad guys they are! |
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| Nothing has been accepted yet, looks like its just not enough and trade through your country will never be accepted as it would have been by now. |
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pg
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| Is it true that the direct trade issue has to be through the Greek Cypriot "Republic of Cyprus"? |
Perhaps you mean that the legal basis for the trade would be "protocol 10", under which all EU member states must agree unanimously. Naturally, this means also the Republic of Cyprus must agree to the terms.
This has been mentioned in the media as if the trade will be on the terms of Republic of Cyprus. I believe the EU would administer the port - but in general I do not think details like these has even been worked out as proposals yet. |
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pg
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| Nothing has been accepted yet, looks like its just not enough and trade through your country will never be accepted as it would have been by now. |
My country is your country - please feel like home. |
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boulio
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| Is it true that the direct trade issue has to be through the Greek Cypriot "Republic of Cyprus"? If so then that appears to be a non starter again. The EU are losing a lot of credibility in the north, maybe we should just tell them where to put their aid and tell them not to meddle in our affairs. |
I think the original proposal was for the port of Ammohostos to be run jointly between the two municipalities of Famagusta under EU oversight,so technically it will be run by both the G/C AND T/C. |
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| pg wrote: |
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| Nothing has been accepted yet, looks like its just not enough and trade through your country will never be accepted as it would have been by now. |
My country is your country - please feel like home. |
My country is called the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus whats yours called??? |
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| Is it true that the direct trade issue has to be through the Greek Cypriot "Republic of Cyprus"? If so then that appears to be a non starter again. The EU are losing a lot of credibility in the north, maybe we should just tell them where to put their aid and tell them not to meddle in our affairs. |
I think the original proposal was for the port of Ammohostos to be run jointly between the two municipalities of Famagusta under EU oversight,so technically it will be run by both the G/C AND T/C. |
Under the "Republic of Cyprus"?? dont think that will be accepted by our leaders. |
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boulio
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| WERE does it say under the Republic of Cyprus?the two municipalities will run and use the port and the EU will have oversight. |
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pg
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| pg wrote: |
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| Nothing has been accepted yet, looks like its just not enough and trade through your country will never be accepted as it would have been by now. |
My country is your country - please feel like home. |
My country is called the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus whats yours called??? |
Cyprus. |
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MicAtCyp
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Well the EU says Cyprus joined the EU but the Aquis in the occupied areas is suspended. The government of Cyprus is called Republic of Cyprus.  |
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| pg wrote: |
| Viewpoint wrote: |
| pg wrote: |
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| Nothing has been accepted yet, looks like its just not enough and trade through your country will never be accepted as it would have been by now. |
My country is your country - please feel like home. |
My country is called the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus whats yours called??? |
Cyprus. |
Our neighbors  |
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pg
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| pg wrote: |
| Viewpoint wrote: |
| pg wrote: |
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| Nothing has been accepted yet, looks like its just not enough and trade through your country will never be accepted as it would have been by now. |
My country is your country - please feel like home. |
My country is called the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus whats yours called??? |
Cyprus. |
Our neighbors |
Your country is my country  |
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Viewpoint
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| The "Republic of Cyprus" is yours not mine all I have known is the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and feel no relation or belonging to your country. |
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