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Dhavlos Warnings : 1 Site Admin

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham
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What this project tries to do is find the true names of our villages, Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot, in the north and south.
Basically, if a village was Turkish Cypriot, then what we want to know, is what it was called (pre-74) by the villagers (i.e., its actual name, not one given to it by the northern or southern governments). The same goes for the north, for either Turkish Cypriot and/or Greek Cypriot villages.
For mixed villages, we want to know what the village was called by both Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots.
The way it is set up is as follows:
What I have is an excel spreadsheet(60kb) of villages, from this map(warning 2MB). They are listed below by district (the north is one list, and the larnaca and Republic of Cyprus famagusta district are combined), and then by alphabetical order.
- The first column is the name according to the map.
- The second colomn is the name in greek letters(if applicable)
- The third column is the name in turkish letters (if applicable)
- The fourth colomn is the name in turkish, but in English letters (again, if applicable)
So for example:
Dhavlos : Δαυλος : (none) : (none)
Kokkina : (none) : Koççina : Kochina
What you can do to help, is post the true names of the villages you know, by helping me add to the spreadsheet. If you see one that is not done, just post: the number of the village (eg. Afania-3-) and what the name of the village is, like in the above example. |
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erolz
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Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 4195 Location: Kyrenia / Girne
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It's not possible to add ot the spreadsheet directly I am afarid. What you can do is post updates in the thread and I / Dhavlos will add them to the spreadsheet, or you can save the spreadheet localy and then email it to me of Dajvlos and we will update the central spreadhseet.
So I'll start off. Here is the Turkish Cypriot names for a couple of places in the north.
Kyrenia = Girne
Templos= Zeytinlik |
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Mete Warnings : 3 Deputy

Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 1150 Location: Boston
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Well, I don't have Excel installed on this computer. Couldn't you guys post it as an incomplete list at least?
Secondly, I thought the point of the project was to find the true names of the places? For example, Girne is a true Turkish name for Kyrenia because that's how Turkish Cypriots referred to it before 1974 but Zeytinlik is not the true name for Templos, it's a Turkish name given after 1974 and I'm not sure if there was a Turkish name for it before 1974. |
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erolz
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Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 4195 Location: Kyrenia / Girne
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| Mete wrote: |
Well, I don't have Excel installed on this computer. Couldn't you guys post it as an incomplete list at least?
Secondly, I thought the point of the project was to find the true names of the places? For example, Girne is a true Turkish name for Kyrenia because that's how Turkish Cypriots referred to it before 1974 but Zeytinlik is not the true name for Templos, it's a Turkish name given after 1974 and I'm not sure if there was a Turkish name for it before 1974. |
Hmm this is more complicated than I thought and possibly I have misunderstood the whole project (sorry if I have). To me I would like a 'resource' that allowed me to take any name (Greek Cypriot, Turkish Cypriot pre 74, Turkish Cypriot post 74) and convert it to any other form. But maybe that's not Dahvlos' objective here. ?
Mete you can get a free excel view utility here (for winxp) - there are others I think for other OS's
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c8378bf4-996c-4569-b547-75edbd03aaf0&displaylang=EN |
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erolz
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Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 4195 Location: Kyrenia / Girne
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Dhavlos Warnings : 1 Site Admin

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham
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| yeh, sorry if i wasnt clear before erol, but mete is right...the names before 74 are what i was looking for. Maybe we could add a column for notes, eg the turkified names of the north villages also. |
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Dhavlos Warnings : 1 Site Admin

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham
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link to the turkified names of villages in the north...
http://www.hri.org/Cyprus/Cyprus_Problem/xwria.html
However, we are looking for the names the people used to call them before 1974.
Also, i have found this website which is quite good...basically, you look for the name of a village/town, and it will list up other names of what the village/town is called(although its main job is a weather forecaster) ...if people can look at this, and post here what the main names are, in greek and turkish letters, then we can put them on the master copy.
http://www.fallingrain.com/world/CY/
Eg.
Ayios Epiktitos
Other names: Aypihtito,Catalkoy,Ayepiktitos,Çatalköy,Saint Epiktitos,Agios Epiktitos,Chatal Keuy
of these, which are 'proper'? |
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filio
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Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 285 Location: Home
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Dhavlos Warnings : 1 Site Admin

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham
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| filio, thank you, it was this topic that got me thinking into doing this, but we need more Turkish Cypriots who know what the old names where! (As well as Greek Cypriots who need to help me write the names of the places in greek!) |
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repulsewarrior
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1639 Location: Canada
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| There is a town, up from Komi Kebir 2-4 km., called, Eftakomi, and it is a majority Greek village as well, which I did not see on the list. |
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depurple Warnings : 1 Ministerial

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 2872 Location: Australia
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Lapithos is Lapta:
Karavas?
Basillia?
Orca?
BUT are there any new villages in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus?
I think there are few in the South:
Aphrodite Hills
Pantha |
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Dhavlos Warnings : 1 Site Admin

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham
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| ERm, RW, could it have been called Eptakomi? thats the one i could find... |
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moonskin
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Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 513 Location: Freiburg, Germany
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There are a total of 199 names down there. Someone speaking Greek will have to add the proper Greek names next to them. Perhaps it is not that hard.
The list is in the New Name - Old Name format.
Cheers.
PS: I found this somewhere on the net. I am not so sure if one of the links above is exactly the same as this, since the link does not seem to work anymore.
Lefkosa (Nicosia) District
1. Lefkosa - Lefkosa
2. Akçay - Argaca
3. Akincilar - Luricina
4. Alaykoy - Yerolekko
5. Asagi Bostanci - Asagi Zodya
6. Aydinkoy - Prastyo
7. Bagliköy - Amnbeligu
8. Bademli - Lutro
9. Balikesir - Balikitre
10. Beykoy - Beykoy
11. Cengizköy - Peristeronari
12. Cihangir - Abohor
13. Camlikoy - Camlikoy
14. Cukurova - Kuru Manastir
15. Degirmenlik - Khytrea
16. Demirhan - Tirhon
17. Dilekkaya - Ayakebir
18. Doganci - Elye
19. Duzova - Eksomodos
Z0. Erdemli - Tremese
21. Erenkoy - Koccino
22. Gayretkoy - Avlona
23. Gaziler - Piroyi
24. Gaziveren - Gaziveran
25. Gemikonagi - Gemikonagi
26.. Gokhan - Voni
27. Gonyeli - Gonyeli
28. Gunebakan - Amadyes
29. Gunesköy - Nikita
30. Gurpinar - Aymarina
31 . GulzeIyurt - Omorfo
32. Hamitkoy - Mandres
33. Haspolat - Miamilya
34. Ikidere - Ikidere
35. Kalavac - Kalavac
36. Kalkanli - Kapudi
37. Kanlikoy - Kanlikoy
38. Kirikkale - Melusa
39. Kirklar - Kirklar
40. Kizilay - Kizilbas
41. K.Kaymakli - K.Kaymakli
42. Kurutepe - Kserovuno
43. Lefke - Lefka
44 . Meric - Mora
45. Mevlevi - Cira
46. Minarelikoy - Minarelikoy
47. Ortakoy - Ortakoy
48 . Omerli - Galini
49. Serhadköy - Filya
50. Sahinler - Masari
51. Sirin - Varisa
52. Taskoy - Petre
53. Taspinar - Angolem
54. Turkeli - Ayvasil
55. Yayla - Siryanohori
56. Yedidalga - Potamus du Gambu
57. Yenicekoy - Yenicekoy
58. Yesilirmak - Limnidi
59. Yesilyurt - Pendaya
60. Yilmazköy - Sillura
61. Yigitler - Arcoz
62. Yukari Bostanci - Yukari Zodya
63. Yuvacik - Hrisilyu
64. Zumrutkoy - Kadagopya
Magosa (Famagusta) District
1. Adaçay - Melanarga
2. Agillar - Mondras
3. Akdogan - Lysi
4. Akova - Yipsos
5. Aianiçi - Piperisterona
6. Altinovs - Aynskofo
7. Ardahan - Ardana
8. Aridami - Artemi
9. Aslankoy - Angastina
10. Atlilar - Aloda
11. Avtepe - Ay Simeo
12. Aygun - Ayyorgi
13. Bafra - Vogolida
14: Balalan - Planadinissa
15. Beyarmudu - Pergama
16. Boltasli - Litrangomi
17. Bogaz - Bogaz
18. Bogazici - Lapaios
19. Bogaztepe - Monarga
20. Buyukkonuk - Komikebir
21. Camlica - Kufez
22. Cayirova - Aytotoro
23. Cayonu - Kalopsida
24. Cinarli - Bladan
25. Derince - Vatilakka
26. Dipkarpaz - Dipkarpaz
27. Dortyol - Prastyo
28. Ergenekon - Ayharida
29. Ergazi - Ovgoroz
30. Esenkoy - Cilanemo
31. Gazikoy - Afanya
32. Gazi Magusa - Magusa
33. Gecitkale - Lefkonuk
34. Gelincik - VasiIi
35. Gonendere - Konedra
36. Gornec - Gornec
37. Guvercinlik - Guvercinlik
38. Incirli - Makrasiga
39. Inonu - Sinde
40. Iskele - Trikomo
41. Kaleburnu - Galiopourni
42. Kalecik - Gastria
43. Kaplica - Davlos
44. Kilitkaya - Kridya
45. Korkuteli - Gaydura
46. Koprulu - Kukla
47. Kumyali - Kumyalik
48. Kurudere - Musulida
49. Kuruova - Korovya
50. Kurtulus - Avgalida
51. Kuzucuk - Arnayi
52. Mallidag - Melunda
53. Mehmetçik - Galatya
54. Mersinlik - Flamudi
55. Mormenekse - Limya
56. Murataga - Marata
57. Mutluyaka - Stiilos
58. Nergizli - Yenagra
59. Otuken - Spatarigo
60. Pamuklu - Tavro
61. Pasakoy - Pasakoy
62. Pinarli - Vitsada
63. Pile - Pile
64. Pirhan - Pirga
65. Sandallar - Sandallar
66. Sazlikuy - Livadya
67. Serdarli - Catoz
68. Sinirustu - Singrasi
69. Sipahi - Aytrias
70. Sutluce - Ipsillat
71. Taslica - Neda
72. Tatlisu - Akatu
73. Tirmen - Tirmen
74. Topcukoy - Topcukoy
75. Turnalar - Yerani
76. Turunclu - Stroncilo
77. Tuzla - Engomi
78. Tuzluca - Patric
79. Turkmenkoy - Kondea
80. Ulukisla - Marotovuno
81. Vadili - Vadili
82. Yamackoy - Aynikola
83. Yarkoy - AyiIya
84. Yedikonuk - Eptagomi
85. Yeni Bogazici - Aysergi
86. Yeni Erenkoy - Yalusa
87. Yesilkoy - Ay Andronigo
88. Yildirim - Milya
89. Zeybekkoy - Ayistat
90. Ziyamet - Ziyamet
Girne (Kyrenia) District
1. Agirdag - Agirdag
2. Akcicek - Sisglibo
3. Akdeniz - Ay. Irini
4. Alemdag - Agridaci
5. Alsancak - Karava
6. Arapkoy - Arapkoy
7. Bahceli - Kalturga
8. Bellabayis - Bellapais
9. Besparmak - Trabeza
10. Camlibel - Mirti
11. Catalkoy - Catalkoy
12 . DagyoIu - Fota
13. Dikmen - Dikomo
14. Dogankoy - Thermia
15. Edremit - Tirmit
16. Esentepe - Ay Kurus-Ay Anvrosios
17. Geçitkoy - Panagra
18. Girne - Girne
19. Goceri - Bilelle
20. Gungor - Kutsovendi
21. Hisarkoy - Kambilli
22. Ilgaz - Fderiha
23. Incesu - Modiyes
24. Karaagac - Harca
25. Karaman - Karmi
26. Karaoglanoglu - Ayyorgi
27. Karpasa - Karpasa
28. Karsiyaka - Vasilya
29. KayaIar - Orga
30. Kaynakkoy - Sihari
31. Korucam - Kormacit
32. Kozan Larnakatis - Lapitos
33. Komurcu - Komurcu
34. Kordemen - Kordemen
35. Lapta - Lapithos
36. Malatya - Balyosofo
37. Ozankoy - Kazafana
38. Ozhan - Asomato
39. Pinarbasi - Kirni
40. Sadrazamkoy - Livera
41. Sirinevler - Ayermola
42. Taskent - Vuno
43. Tepebasi - Yorgoz
44. YeSiitepe - Elya
45. Zeytinlik - Temroz |
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Dhavlos Warnings : 1 Site Admin

Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 4697 Location: Birmingham
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well done moonskin!!!
this is exactly what i was talking about!  |
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100%cypriot Warnings : 4 Ministerial

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| My dad's village is Lurucina and everyone calls it LURUCINA, only outsider's sometime's call it Akincilar but most T/C's have allways called it LURUCINA |
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