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brother
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| So what happens to the Turkish Cypriot that grew up after 1974 who wanted to build or buy homes because they married, had children etc. because of this current situation are they not stuck in limbo wheras there Greek Cypriot brothers could buy, build etc. and advance, has this also been taken into account. |
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Alexandros Lordos
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| brother wrote: |
| So what happens to the Turkish Cypriot that grew up after 1974 who wanted to build or buy homes because they married, had children etc. because of this current situation are they not stuck in limbo wheras there Greek Cypriot brothers could buy, build etc. and advance, has this also been taken into account. |
Yes, Turkish Cypriots who built homes on Greek Cypriot land after 1974 could keep them, according to the Annan Plan. Turkish Cypriots who bought ready-made Greek Cypriot homes from other Turkish Cypriots, could use the other Turkish Cypriots ex-property in the south as exchange with which to keep their current residence.
The Annan plan was seamlessly perfect in satisfying Turkish Cypriot concerns, not just on the property issue, but also power sharing at the Federal Government, strength of bizonality, Turkish security guarantees, political autonomy of the Turkish Cypriot component state, and more ... |
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brother
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| Thanks for that Alex but where would you say apart from the right of return did the plan also fail the Greek Cypriot expectations. |
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Alexandros Lordos
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| Thanks for that Alex but where would you say apart from the right of return did the plan also fail the Greek Cypriot expectations. |
right of return? Sorry brother, I didn't understand your question. Please clarify ...  |
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cannedmoose
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| Right of return Alexandre... |
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Alexandros Lordos
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Ah Ok ...
The other "big one" as far as the Greek Cypriots are concerned, is Security. The Greek Cypriots did not want Turkey to have a role in the security system of re-united Cyprus. Certainly not a primary and permanent role.
... and the Settlers of course. |
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brother
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| So based on what is the no-go for Greek Cypriot, how would you see us firstly resolving the security issue? What would be acceptable to them? |
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brother
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| And while we are doing this we must not forget that the solution must be pragmatic so we do not alienate the Turkish Cypriot and keep there 'yes' vote. |
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Alexandros Lordos
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| So based on what is the no-go for Greek Cypriot, how would you see us firstly resolving the security issue? What would be acceptable to them? |
If my survey is to be trusted, then both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots would be willing to accept a "Euro-Cypriot" security system: An integrated Cypriot security force with European officers at key posts to guarantee neutrality, and with back-up guarantees by Greece and Turkey, that would only apply in case this primary security system fails to operate properly. |
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cannedmoose
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| Alex, remind me, did you survey attitudes towards a NATO force? |
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Alexandros Lordos
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| Alex, remind me, did you survey attitudes towards a NATO force? |
Yes, results were that about 50% of Greek Cypriots and 50% of Turkish Cypriots would accept such a system. The other 50% - of both communities - would oppose it. |
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detailer
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| Alexandros Lordos wrote: |
| brother wrote: |
| So based on what is the no-go for Greek Cypriot, how would you see us firstly resolving the security issue? What would be acceptable to them? |
If my survey is to be trusted, then both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots would be willing to accept a "Euro-Cypriot" security system: An integrated Cypriot security force with European officers at key posts to guarantee neutrality, and with back-up guarantees by Greece and Turkey, that would only apply in case this primary security system fails to operate properly. |
Is there any USA involment in security system? |
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Alexandros Lordos
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| detailer wrote: |
| Alexandros Lordos wrote: |
| brother wrote: |
| So based on what is the no-go for Greek Cypriot, how would you see us firstly resolving the security issue? What would be acceptable to them? |
If my survey is to be trusted, then both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots would be willing to accept a "Euro-Cypriot" security system: An integrated Cypriot security force with European officers at key posts to guarantee neutrality, and with back-up guarantees by Greece and Turkey, that would only apply in case this primary security system fails to operate properly. |
Is there any USA involment in security system? |
Not in the proposal which I put to the test in my survey ...
Do you think USA involvement would be a good idea? |
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brother
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| I think the further away we keep the USA the better imo. |
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| Do any of you feel that seeing how the Greek Cypriots got screwed over with the A-Plan if only one of their demands were satisfied to the fullest extent (probably right of return since this is the most important i feel) then the other two could be bypassed by only slight changes? Taking also into account the desparation for a solution to this problem. |
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