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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: 10/5/2005, ORTAK IRADE Reply with quote

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ORTAK İRADE

19 Mart’ta Kıbrıs’tan ayrıldığımızı yazmıştım. Londra’da mide kanseri tedavim devam ediyor. 29 Nisan’da ikinci seans kemoterapi uyguladılar. Üçüncüsü 20 Mayıs’ta yapılacak. Sonra ameliyata sıra gelecek. Kıbrıs’ın bölünmüşlüğüne karşı nasıl inatla mücadele ediyorsam kansere karşı da aynı şekilde mücadele ediyorum. Kıbrıs’ın bölünmüşlüğüne karşı mücadelemde olduğu gibi kansere karşı mücadelemde de yalnız değilim. Başta en yakınlarım olmak üzere Kıbrıslıtürk, Kıbrıslırum, Maronit, Ermeni ve Latin birçok Kıbrıslı yurtseverin benimle olduğunu biliyorum. Yazılarımı Rumcaya çeviren Constatia’dan iyi dilek haberlerini alıyorum. Yurdumuzun gün gele mutlaka bütünleşeceğine inanıyorum. Toplumlarımızın kardeşçe tam bir dayanışma içine gireceklerinden kuşkum yoktur.Yurdumuza döneceğim günü iple çekiyorum. Tanıdık tanımadık, köşemi okuyan herkese selam ve sevgilerimi iletiyorum.

Londra’dan Kıbrıs’ın kuzeyindeki “değişimi” izlemeye ve anlamaya çalışıyorum.

Kıbrıs Cumhuriyeti’nin yaşaması gerektiğine inanan Ahmet Mithat Berberoğlu ve arkadaşlarının 1970 yılında kurduğu Cumhuriyetçi Türk Partisi’ni yöneten bugünkü kadro Kıbrıs’ın bölünmüş koşullarında, kuzeyde, Cumhurbaşkanlık, Meclis Başkanlığı ve Başbakanlık makamlarıı elde etme becerisini göstermişlerdir.

Kutlarız.

Mehmet Ali Talat, seçimi kazandığında halka, “Barış elimizi Rum toplumuna, Rum liderliğine uzattığımızı açıkladım az önce basın toplantısında. Bunun gereğini hep birlikte yapacağız. Büyük, zor bir süreç yaşadık. Sizler gece demediniz, gündüz demediniz, bir büyük sessiz devrimi gerçekleştirdiniz. Bu büyük hareket, bu dünyaya örnek olabilecek hareket, bugün artık son noktasını koydu. Kıbrıs’ın kuzeyindeki iktidarı topyekün değiştiren noktayı koydu. Bu son nokta, cumhurbaşkanlığı seçimi, bunun arkasında sizlerin desteğiyle, sizlerin vereceği sağlam güvenceler, destekle, omuzla, yapacağımız işlerde bize büyük kolaylıklar sağlayacak. Bundan sonra yapacaklarımız sizin bu güçlü desteğinizle zafere ulaşıncaya, AB’ye girinceye kadar devam edecek” dedi.

Önce şunun altını çizmekte yarar vardır:

Ortada “büyük sessiz devrim”diye bir olay yoktur. Kimse kimseyi kandırmaya çalışmasın. Marxist kökenli Mehmet Ali Talat “devrim”in ne demek olduğunu çok iyi bilir. Kıbrıs bölündükten sonra Kıbrıs’ın kuzeyinde gerçekleşen cumhurbaşkanlığı seçimleri içinde en düşük katılım oranı Talat’ın seçildiği seçim olmuştur.

Neden?

Halk devrim “büyük” ve “sessiz” olsun diye mi sandığa gitmedi?

Halk sandığa gitmedi çünkü sonuç belliydi. Ankara Denktaş’ı götürmeye ve Avrupa Birliği yolunda ilerlemesine yardımcı olacak başka birisini getirmeğe karar vermişti. Mehmet Ali Talat bunu gördü ve göreve talip oldu. Ankara ile uyumlu çalışacağına Ankara’dakileri inandırdı. Ankara’dakiler ikna olunca Denktaş çekilmek zorunda kaldı.

Olay budur...Başka bir deyişle ortada “büyük” ve “sessiz” bir devrim yoktur. Ortada, Ankara’nın Lefkoşa’daki adamını değiştirme olayı vardır.

Önemli olan bundan sonrasıdır.

Ankara, Avrupa Birliği yolculuğuna çıkana kadar Kıbrıs’ın kuzeyini sahiplenmeye çalışıyordu. Lefkoşa’daki adamı Denktaş bu amaçla görevliydi. Avrupa Birliği yolculuğu başlayınca, Ankara’ya:

“Dur bakalım ahbap. Kıbrıs’ın kuzeyini sahiplenmeye çalışarak AB yolunda ilerleyemezsin” dediler.

Ankara o zaman, kırk yıldır Denktaş’ın dediğinin tersini söylemeye başladı.

“Çözümsüzlük çözüm değildir” diyerek AB yolunda ilerlemek istediği mesajını verdi.

“Denktaş, “Çözümsüzlük çözümdür” demekte ısrar edince, Denktaşı’ı götürdüler, Ankara’nın dediğini tekrarlamaya gönüllü Mehmet Ali’yi getirdiler.

Şimdi Mehmet Ali Talat, “Bundan sonra yapacaklarımız zafere ulaşıncaya, yani barışı sağlayıncaya, AB’ye girinceye kadar devam edecek” diyor.

“AB’ye girinceye kadar” mı?

Kim AB’ye girinceye kadar?

Kıbrıs’ın kuzeyi mi?

Yoksa Türkiye mi?

Yoksa ikisi birlikte mi?

Türkiye’nin Genel Kurmay Başkanı Orgeneral Hilmi Özkök, geçenlerde düzenlediği basın toplantısında, Kıbrıs’ın güvenlik açısından iki temel esasa dayandığını belirtti ve:

“- Birincisi, Kıbrıslı soydaşlarımıza sağlamak zorunda olduğumuz güvenlik sorumluluğudur. İkincisi is Garanti ve İttifak Antlaşmaların’da açıkça ifade edildiği üzere Kıbrıs’ın Türkiye’nin güvenliği açısından taşıdığı roldür” dedi.

Özkök ayrıca KKTC’ye uygulanan izolasyonun kaldırılmasına yönelik vaatlerin unutulmaya terk edildiği bu süreçte Türkiye’den herhangi bir jest yapmasını istemenin haksızlık olacağına da dikkat çekti.

Özkök ne Başbakan ne de Dışişleri Bakanı’dır. Buna karşın Türkiye’nin Kıbrıs politikasını çok açık ve çok kesin biçimde dile getirmektedir. Demek ki Türkiye’de Genel Kurmaylık temel konularda ağırlığını korumaktadır.

Ankara’da durum bu olunca Kıbrıs’ın kuzeyinde Denktaş’ın gitmesi ve Talat’ın gelmesi ile ne değişebilir?

Doğrudur:

“- Çözümsüzlük çözümdür” söylemi gitmiş, “- Çözümzülük çözüm değildir” söylemi gelmiştir.

İngilizler böyle durumlarda “- So what?” diye sorarlar.

Görünen odur ki Türkiye Avrupa Birliği’ne tam üye oluncaya kadar Kıbrıs’ın kuzeyini elinde tutmakta kararlıdır. Başta Anlo-Amerikanlar olmak üzere Batı Türkiye’ye bu konuda yardımcıdır.

Ancak Mehmet Ali Talat, Ankara’nın öfkesine neden olmamaya dıkkat ederek, içtenlikle (samimiyetle) Kıbrıs’ın güneyi ile ciddi bir diyaloğa yönelmek isteyebilir. Kıbrısrum tarafı bu olasılığı göz önünde bulundurmalıdır. Mehmet Ali Talat’ın karşılaşabileceği zorlukları dikkate alarak O’na yardımcı olmaya çalışmalıdır. Kıbrısrum tarafı Üst Düzey Anlaşmaları’na dayalı iki bölgeli, iki toplumlu federal çözümde ne kadar ısrarlı olur ve federal çözüme doğru ciddi adımlar atmakta ne kadar istek gösterirse Kıbrıs’ın bütünleşmesi yönündeki iki toplumlu ortak iradenin oluşmasına o demli yardımcı olacaktır. Federal çözümden yana ortak irade oluşursa, ortak iradenin karşısında hiçbir güç duramaz.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Özker Özgür, 10 May 2005

I already wrote on 19th of March that we left Cyprus. My cancer treatment continues in London. On 29th of April, they applied the second session of chemotherapy. Next thing will be the operation. I am fighting against cancer in the same way I am fighting against the division of Cyprus. I am not alone in my fight against cancer, just like I am not alone in my fight against the division of Cyprus. I know that primarily my family and then Cypriotturks, Cypriotgreeks, Maronites, Armenians and Latins, many Cypriot patriots are with me. I had the best wishes of Constatia who is translating my writings into Greek. I believe that our country will be certainly united one day. I have no doubt that our communities will engage in solidarity as brothers. I am looking forward to the day I will go back to my country. Whether I know them or not, I am sending my regards to everybody who reads my column in the newspaper.

I'm trying to watch and understand the "change" in the Northern part of Cyprus.

The team which is ruling the CTP, a party which was established by Ahmet Mithat Berberoğlu and his friends in 1970 who believed that the Republic of Cyprus should continue to exist, have succeeded to gain the presidency, the presidency in parliament and the prime minister position in the North under the divided conditions of Cyprus.

Congratulations.

When he won the elections, Mehmet Ali Talat said to the people, "In the press conference a while ago, I stated that we are giving our hand of peace to the Greek community and its leadership. We will do the requirements of this altogether. We have been through a long and difficult period. You did not care day or night but made a big and quiet revolution. This big movement which could be an example for the rest of the world, has been finalised today. This changed the entire leadership in the Northern part of Cyprus. This final point, the presidential election, which together with your support and trust, will make it easier on us for the work that we will carry out in the future. The things we will do afterwards will continue with your strong support until we reach victory and enter the EU".

First, we should underline the following:

There is no such thing as a "big and quiet revolution". Let's not kid each other. Mehmet Ali Talat, as an ex-Marxist, knows very well what "revolution" means. After the division of Cyprus, the presidential election in the Northern part of Cyprus with the lowest turnout rate was the election which Talat won.

Why?

Did people not vote, for it to be a "big" and "quiet" revolution?

People did not vote because the result was evident. Ankara was already decided to remove Denktaş and continue with somebody else who could help her progress on the EU road. Mehmet Ali Talat observed this and asked for the job. He convinced the people in Ankara that he would work in harmony with them. When the people in Ankara were convinced, Denktaş was obliged to leave.

That is all about it...In other words, there is no such thing as a "big" and "quiet" revolution. The only thing that happened is the change of Ankara's associate in Nicosia.

What's important is afterwards.

Until she began the journey for the EU, Ankara was trying to own the Northern part of Cyprus. This was the mission of her associate Denktaş in Nicosia. When the EU journey began, Ankara was told as follows:

"Hold on my friend. You can not progress on the EU road by trying to own the Northern part of Cyprus".

After that, Ankara started to say the opposite of what Denktaş has been saying for forty years.

By saying "non-solution is not a solution", Ankara gave the message that she wants to progress along the EU road.

When Denktaş insisted that "non-solution is the solution", they replaced Denktaş with Mehmet Ali who volunteers to repeat what Ankara says.

Now Mehmet Ali Talat says that "The things we will do afterwards will continue until we reach victory, sustain peace and enter the EU".

"Until we enter the EU"?

Until who enters the EU?

The Northern part of Cyprus?

Or Turkey?

Or both of them?

The president of the general staff of Turkey general Hilmi Özkök, in a press conference he organised recently, mentioned that Cyprus depends on two fundamental principles in terms of security:

"First, our responsibility that we have to provide security to our brothers. Second, the role of Cyprus in the security of Turkey as explicitly mentioned in the treaties of guarantee and alliance".

In addition, Özkök stated that in this period of time where the promises for the removal of isolations on Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus tend to be forgotten, it would be unfair to ask Turkey for any further gestures.

Özkök is neither the prime minister nor the minister of foreign affairs. In spite of this, he states the external policy of Turkey on Cyprus in a very open and definitive manner. This means that the general staff of Turkey still preserves its reservations on the fundamental issues.

When the situation is like this in Ankara, what can possibly change with the replacement of Denktaş with Talat?

The following is true:

"Non-solution is the solution" stance is gone and "non-solution is not a solution" stance arrived.

English people ask in such situations, "So what?".

It seems that Turkey is very decisive to keep the Northern part of Cyprus until she becomes a full member of the EU. Primarily the Anglo-Americans, west is helping Turkey on this issue.

However, Mehmet Ali Talat might want to carefully engage in a serious and honest dialogue with the South of Cyprus without causing anger in Ankara. The Cypriotgreek side should be considering this possibility. By considering the difficulties that Mehmet Ali Talat will be facing, they should try to help him. The more Cypriotgreek side insists on a bi-communal, bi-zonal federation based on high level agreements and shows its will for taking serious steps towards a federal solution, the more it will help the creation of a bi-communal common will for the reunification of Cyprus. If a common will for a federal solution is created, then no power can stand against the common will.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(end of first para) - No matter I know them or not, I am sending my regards to everybody who reads my corner in the newspaper.


reads my column in the newspaper. - this may or may not be correct im just guessing....if he is refering to the 'column' that he writes in the newspaper, then the word column would be better imo.

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You did not care day or night, and made a big and quiet revolution.

You did not care day or night, butmade a big and quiet revolution.

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This big movement which can be an example for the rest of the world, has put the final point today.

confusing over the meaning of the word 'put' or 'point' - i think one of these words needs to change to be more clear.

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This final point, the elections of presidency which with your support, with the trust and shoulder you will give, will make it easier for us for the assignments we will take over.

This final point, the presidential elections,which with your support, with the trust and shoulder (is this a direct translation? it doesnt work in english..sorry)

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Convinced the people in Ankara that he would work in harmony with Ankara.


Convincing people in Ankara that he would work in harmony with Ankara.

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Until it began the journey for the EU, Ankara was trying to own the North of Cyprus. It's man in Nicosia, Denktaş, had this as the mission. When the EU journey began, it was told to Ankara:


what is 'it' here..if it is refering to denktash, then it should be 'he'. Also, should 'to' be 'by' ? was Ankara the one telling 'it/he'...if so, then it should be 'by'.

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"Hold on my friend. You can not progress in the EU road by trying to own the North of Cyprus".


You can not progress on the EU road by trying to own the North of Cyprus"


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Now Mehmet Ali Talat says that "The things we will do afterward will continue until we reach the victory, sustain peace and enter the EU".


The things we will do afterwards will continue until we reach (delete the here) victory,

Hope this is ok moony...if what i say didnt make sense, or you want to question it...just say so Very Happy im not always the font of all knowledge Wink lol
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merged Dhav's corrections and millions of many other typos, mistakes, etc. that I found. Ready for a second review Very Happy

(I'll do corrections to other articles in coming days as well)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonskin wrote:
No matter I know them or not, I am sending my regards to everybody who reads my column in the newspaper.

this could be replaced with If or Whether..whether works best imo. Very Happy
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The team which is ruling the CTP, a party which was established by Ahmet Mithat Berberoğlu and his friends in 1970 who believed that the Republic of Cyprus should live, have succeeded to gain the presidency, the presidency in parliament and the prime minister positions in North under the divided conditions of Cyprus.

live - exist , it sounds better
positions - position
in North - in the North


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This final point, the presidential elections, which together with your support and trust, will make it easier on us for the work that we will carry out in the future. The things we will do afterwards will continue with your strong support until we reach victory and enter the EU".

elections - election

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After the division of Cyprus, the presidential elections in the Northern part of Cyprus with the lowest turnout rate was the elections which Talat won

either : election, was, election

or : elections, were, elections ...personally , the first one sounds better imo.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

other than those things...it sounds good, someone else who speaks english should have a look to check i havent missed anything...it can be tiring and very tedious going over a piece of work lots of times!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dhavlos wrote:
other than those things...it sounds good, someone else who speaks english should have a look to check i havent missed anything...it can be tiring and very tedious going over a piece of work lots of times!!!


Done. Thanks a lot Dhavlos. I'm eagerly looking forward to the "return of the moosey". He mentioned before that he could help with the corrections but then again....
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