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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K59Wp4xPvwM

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Cyprus' President Demetris Christofias, the Greek Cypriot leader, and Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat will start talks on September 3, ending a four-year impasse in efforts to bring the two communities together after decades of separation.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKL571310320080725


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2008/07/2008725143630229659.html

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-07/26/content_8772117.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/26/world/europe/26cyprus.html?_r=1&ref=world&oref=slogin

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/25/europe/cyprus.php

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UN spokesman Jose Diaz told VOA that today's events are a very positive sign for the future of Cyprus.

"Well I think today's meeting went quite smoothly. We had a very good statement coming out of the meeting.

"in addition to the agreement to start negotiations on the third of September, they also announced a series of measures that are aimed at making life easier for people on both sides of the divide. So I think it's a very good result,"he said.

http://www.famagusta-gazette.com/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=69&twindow=Default&mad=No&sdetail=4313&wpage=&skeyword=&sidate=&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=2350&hn=famagusta-gazette&he=.com
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joint Statement by Cypriot Leaders on Start of Full Fledged Talks
Release Date: 25 July 2008


Today the Leaders undertook the final review of the work of the Working Groups and Technical Committees. They noted the results achieved and commended their members for all their efforts.

Having made their final review, the Leaders decided to start their full-fledged negotiations on 3 September 2008, under the good offices mission of the United Nations Secretary-General.

The aim of the full-fledged negotiations is to find a mutually acceptable solution to the Cyprus problem, which will safeguard the fundamental and legitimate rights and interests of Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots. The agreed solution will be put to separate simultaneous referenda.

Regarding the Technical Committees, the Leaders today approved sixteen more measures in the areas of environment, cultural heritage, crisis management, crime and criminal matters, and gave instructions for their immediate and full implementation.

As a reflection of their heightened engagement, the Leaders have agreed to establish a secure hotline to facilitate direct contact between them.

The Leaders welcome the appointment of Mr. Alexander Downer as the Secretary-General’s Special Adviser for Cyprus, and look forward to working with him and the UN team in the coming period.

They also instructed their Representatives to take up the issue of Limnitis/Yesilirmak and other crossings.

http://www.unficyp.org/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=2191&tt=graphic&lang=l1
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cyprus wedding brings north, south together
Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot officials attended the wedding of Ayşenur Talat, the daughter of Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (KKTC) on Thursday.


The service was held in Girne, with well-wishers from both sides of the border attending the event at the Crystal Cove Hotel. Guests included US Ambassador Ronald Schlicher, UN Chief of Mission Taye-Brook Zerihoun, Nicos Anastasiadies, the leader of the Greek Cypriot Democratic Rally Party (DISY), and former Greek Cypriot Foreign Minister Nicos Rolandis.

Greek Cypriot leader Christofias had received an invitation from Talat for his daughter’s wedding, but was unable to attend due to a prior engagement. He does, however, plan to visit the KKTC soon so that he can pass on his congratulations to Talat and his wife. Greek Cypriot government spokesman Stefanos Stefanou said the date of the visit had not yet been confirmed but that it would not be happening in the next few days due to Christofias’ heavy schedule.

“Once it is fixed, it will be announced,” Stefanou said, adding that the visit would take place before the start of new negotiations between the two leaders on Sept. 3. If the social visit goes ahead, Christofias will become the first Greek Cypriot leader to visit the KKTC. İstanbul Today's Zaman with wires



02 August 2008, Saturday

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...the best of the bunch for an historic day.

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Cyprus Talks - Your Views
As rival leaders of the divided island of Cyprus meet in Nicosia, BBC website readers from the island have been sending in their expectations on whether a new round of peace negotiations may prove more successful than those of the past.


THE OPTIMISTS
My hopes are that these, and any following talks, prove to be a gateway between both sides. This problem has gone on long enough, and most people I know would like to see the Island reunited. They always got on well before 1974, and lived happily for many years. I wish them success.
Marjorie Hughes, Paphos, Cyprus

I am expecting the stalemate of 34 years to be broken and a "miracle solution" to emerge. This belief is based on an analysis of current international power games rather than internal political dynamics. The West wants to dangle the carrot of eventual EU membership before certain Caucasian countries, and this only makes sense if Turkey becomes a member. The Cyprus problem is the main obstacle to this and I thus expect it to disappear.
Tim Drayton, Limassol, Cyprus


This is the first time since the 1974 conflict that two moderate leaders will try to solve the Cyprus problem. I hope and I believe this time things will be different with a positive outcome. My only concern is the fact that the Turkish-Cypriot leader can not negotiate on his own, as he is strictly following Ankara's policies, sometimes even against his own will.
Stavros A, Limassol, Cyprus


Fingers crossed for success this time. There will never be so good an opportunity again.
Jean Sadler, Larnaka, Cyprus


We sit and wait with high hopes that today's negotiations will end positively in the near future, and that no more Cyprus negotiations will be needed in the future. The time has come to re-approach each other officially, reunite the island, live in peace and prosper as a united European Union member state island!
Costa Constanti, Nicosia, Cyprus


Here we are again. But this time Cypriots have good chance for unification. First of all, Talat and Christofias, are firm friends, and second they were the leaders of two long-time peace strugglers for decades now. It is the time, and if Cypriots miss this one again, then this highway will have another exit only 20 years later.
Ulas Baris, Nicosia, Cyprus



THE PESSIMISTS
These meetings and negotiations have been going on for decades without any results. As long as the UN Security Council resolutions and basic human rights cannot be respected and the US has no immediate interest to force a permanent solution, what is the point of any negotiations? I'm a refugee in my own country and I'm restricted access to my birth place and my only property; we are fed up with all politicians from both communities who have failed to deliver any just results for the last 34 years. We all want a just and peaceful settlement that would respect all human rights and freedoms.

Peter, Nicosia, Cyprus


I'm a Greek Cypriot. All Governments (UK, US and EU) are biased towards Turkey. As long as this bias exists, a fair solution will never be reached. The Turkish army and Turkish settlers must leave the Island. Cyprus belongs to the Cypriots (Cypriots as in Turkish and Greek Cypriots). Turkey/UK/USA/EU must not get involved.
Zac, London


The most realistic, durable, permanent and trouble-free solution in Cyprus is one based on two independent states, both members of the EU, each one running its own affairs, and existing peacefully side by side. Greeks do not, deep down, want to give the "minority" Turks a say in running the whole of Cyprus. Turks, remembering the dark 1963-1974 period, and fearful of Greek domination and suppression, are deeply suspicious of any kind of integration. Any "peace" that may come out of the current talks, I'm afraid, will only be transient, and our children will still be struggling to solve the "Cyprus" problem.
Zeki Bayram, Famagusta, North Cyprus


Although all the people of Cyprus need the reunification of the island I am afraid that Turkey is not ready to accept the resolutions of the United Nations on the problem. Mr Talat is not in a position to negotiate. The decisions are taken by Turkey.
Michael Christoforou, Lefkosia, Cyprus

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7596679.stm


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"You own this process and, as a result, your continuing leadership is
the critical element to make it succeed," Mr. Downer said. "In that
regard, bringing Cypriots to the conviction that reunification of the
island will work for the greater happiness and prosperity of all
Cypriots will, ultimately, be paramount."

http://groups.google.com/group/DRACONUS_POLYTRADITIONAL_GLOBAL_NEWS_AND_MORE/browse_thread/thread/7fe14217e2ef8b51/3e8dc0f5e2929cbd?hl=en&q=Cyprus&_done=%2Fgroup%2FDRACONUS_POLYTRADITIONAL_GLOBAL_NEWS_AND_MORE%2Fbrowse_thread%2Fthread%2F7fe14217e2ef8b51%2F3e8dc0f5e2929cbd%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3DCyprus


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But challenges will lie ahead as discussions, continuing on Sept 11, turn to the economy. Economic issues caused the termination of talks in 2004, with the Greek-Cypriots unable to see the benefits of unification at that time; many of the Greeks who lost their homes in the North at the time of the division, would not have got them back.

Lee says that the most important issue for unification is not the economic disparity between the two sides at present, but the "technical issues" central to the country’s reform, the most pressing of which is how a unified government would run on a day-to-day basis.

http://www.forbes.com/markets/2008/09/04/cyprus-greek-turkey-markets-econ-cx_eb_0904markets19.html


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According to a press release, Biden, chairman of the Senate’s Foreign Relations Committee – who has referred to the Cyprus occupation as an “anomaly” – told Kathimerini that Washington’s relations with Ankara “will be influenced by how the Cyprus problem is solved, namely by the full withdrawal of Turkey, and from how Greek and Turkish differences in the Aegean are settled.”

http://www.financialmirror.com/News/Cyprus_and_World_News/11329


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Moscow has stressed that it will not recognise the illegal Turkish Cypriot regime in northern Cyprus, saying that Russia has not changed its position on the Cyprus question.

http://www.famagusta-gazette.com/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=69&twindow=Default&mad=No&sdetail=5056&wpage=&skeyword=&sidate=&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=2350&hn=famagusta-gazette&he=.com


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"This is a chance for both leaders to leave their mark in the history books. It is also a chance for Cyprus to send a much-needed message to the world. The message is that long-standing conflicts can be settled peacefully through good will and perseverance," Terry Davis, the secretary-general of the Council of Europe, said in a statement yesterday.

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=152218&bolum=102
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mr Christofias and Mr Talat - both seen as moderates - are expected to meet at least once a week after this second round of talks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7610246.stm


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UN secretary general's special envoy for Cyprus said that the decision to be made in Cyprus would be made by the political will of the leaders and the peoples themselves.
http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=28133
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The second quote is the fooliest commentary I've heared...since when Cypriots had a say in the internal affairs of their country. At least since 1191 we didn't
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While the United Nations, United States and Britain now fall all over themselves to appoint 'special representatives' to assist the Cypriots find a solution to their problems, can this process stand any chance of success when the problem itself has been reduced from being an issue of brutal invasion and of the continuing occupation of the sovereign territory of a tiny country by a former regional empire, and is presented instead as a problem between the two communities on Cyprus which they can resolve through intercommunal dialogue?

How many of the international press articles written analysing the problems of Cyprus ever present the story how that 'problem' has been massaged through many years of foreign interference into now being defined as a problem between two communities on the island?

How many of the international press reports on the Cyprus problem clarify how Turkey's role has been reduced from being that of an invading aggressor who has imported hundreds of thousands of its settlers whom it seeks to allow to vote in any referendum on the future of the island, into one of simply whether it 'recognises' the Government of Cyprus and allows Cyprus ships and aircraft to use its territory ?

Will any PHD students in the field of International Politics of Reconciliation choose to investigate what stories there have been in the 60 years of international media coverage about the Cyprus problem which investigate or describe Turkey's policies from the September 1956 events in Istanbul up to current Turkish policy, which many would argue has been solely aimed at destroying the 'reluctant' Republic in Cyprus? Will there be any studies of how Turkish agents on the island have been instrumental in deliberately creating incidents leading to the creation of its own vassal state? What happened to 'self-determination'?

Many will have noted, but few have commented, about Turkey's threats of violence in Cyprus and other abuses of the Republic's sovereignty during the process of the island's bid to join the EU. Having failed to blackmail the EU into not accepting Cyprus' entry, it belatedly jumped onto the bandwagon of trying to influence the island's EU accession in order to safeguard its own interests and promote it's own accession.

Turkey sought to, and succeeded at adversely influencing the content of the UN's Annan Plan in order to maximise the role of the statelet it had created in 'northern' Cyprus, to the extent that the majority population on the island voted against the plan. Through those means, and its blatant propaganda after the Annan Plan was rejected, it still insists the Greek Cypriots (or failing them, then at least the rest of the world) should accept 'the realities' it created in Cyprus.

http://aspectsofreality.blogspot.com/2008/09/ergenekon-murders-in-cyprus-linked-to.html


an interesting blog which i think you might like to read, stav...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mr. Ban welcomed reaffirmation by President Christofias of his commitment to finding a solution and his willingness to continue to work with the UN, including the Secretary-General's Special Adviser, Alexander Downer.


They also discussed collaboration between the UN and Cyprus on global issues, including the set of global anti-poverty targets known as the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) and climate change.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=28145&Cr=Assembly%20&Cr1=debate
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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While the United Nations, United States and Britain now fall all over themselves to appoint 'special representatives' to assist the Cypriots find a solution to their problems, can this process stand any chance of success when the problem itself has been reduced from being an issue of brutal invasion and of the continuing occupation of the sovereign territory of a tiny country by a former regional empire, and is presented instead as a problem between the two communities on Cyprus which they can resolve through intercommunal dialogue?

How many of the international press articles written analysing the problems of Cyprus ever present the story how that 'problem' has been massaged through many years of foreign interference into now being defined as a problem between two communities on the island?

How many of the international press reports on the Cyprus problem clarify how Turkey's role has been reduced from being that of an invading aggressor who has imported hundreds of thousands of its settlers whom it seeks to allow to vote in any referendum on the future of the island, into one of simply whether it 'recognises' the Government of Cyprus and allows Cyprus ships and aircraft to use its territory ?

Will any PHD students in the field of International Politics of Reconciliation choose to investigate what stories there have been in the 60 years of international media coverage about the Cyprus problem which investigate or describe Turkey's policies from the September 1956 events in Istanbul up to current Turkish policy, which many would argue has been solely aimed at destroying the 'reluctant' Republic in Cyprus? Will there be any studies of how Turkish agents on the island have been instrumental in deliberately creating incidents leading to the creation of its own vassal state? What happened to 'self-determination'?

Many will have noted, but few have commented, about Turkey's threats of violence in Cyprus and other abuses of the Republic's sovereignty during the process of the island's bid to join the EU. Having failed to blackmail the EU into not accepting Cyprus' entry, it belatedly jumped onto the bandwagon of trying to influence the island's EU accession in order to safeguard its own interests and promote it's own accession.

Turkey sought to, and succeeded at adversely influencing the content of the UN's Annan Plan in order to maximise the role of the statelet it had created in 'northern' Cyprus, to the extent that the majority population on the island voted against the plan. Through those means, and its blatant propaganda after the Annan Plan was rejected, it still insists the Greek Cypriots (or failing them, then at least the rest of the world) should accept 'the realities' it created in Cyprus.

http://aspectsofreality.blogspot.com/2008/09/ergenekon-murders-in-cyprus-linked-to.html


an interesting blog which i think you might like to read, stav...


I couldn't put it any better...exactly what frustrates me. Thanks RW
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disappointment at Talat speech
By Jacqueline Theodoulou

TURKISH Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat’s address to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) has sparked a disappointed reaction among Greek Cypriot politicians.

Government Spokesman Stefanos Stefanou was yesterday keen to underline the Greek Cypriot side’s desire for a good climate while negotiations to solve the Cyprus problem were underway.

But he pointed out, “Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat’s statements do not help this climate”.

Talat listed a litany of grievances to PACE on Wednesday, a day after President Demetris Christofias made his own address.

Unlike Christofias, who spoke of “all Cypriots” and of the mistakes of the past, the Turkish Cypriot leader was more interested in reiterating how his side had been wronged.

Turkish Cypriots, said Talat, “had been the victim of the Cyprus problem for many years now”, and would work towards a solution to the Cyprus problem “without being enslaved by any feelings of revenge”.

“Mr Talat never misses the opportunity to repeat his well-known positions surrounding the Cyprus problem,” Stefanou said yesterday.

The Government Spokesman also pointed to the contrasting images being projected internationally by the two community leaders. “The impression that is being given is that the President of the Republic chose to speak, as always, about the present and the future, and unfortunately Mr Talat usually chooses to remain in the past,” said Stefanou.

For there to be any hope of a solution, he added, “we need to look ahead” and work based on the principles and agreements that the two communities have agreed on over the years.

Stefanou was referring to the high level agreements of 1977 and 1979, as well as all that has been agreed by Christofias and Talat so far during the direct talks, which he said would lead to a bizonal bicommunal federation, with one undivided leadership, one nationality and one international personality.

“What will count now is how the two communities are presenting themselves on the negotiations table, now the direct talks have begun,” said Stefanou.

Asked to comment on Talat and the Turkish Cypriot side’s behaviour since the talks began, the government spokesman said “the certainty is that such statements, which unfortunately are being made continuously, are not helping the climate”.

DISY president Nicos Anastassiades was equally disappointed with Talat’s PACE statements, which he said could only be described as “completely negative”.

Instead of speaking about his vision for the future of this country, said Anastassiades, Talat attempted through reproaches and referring to the past, to justify unacceptable views regarding a resolution to the Cyprus problem.

The DISY leader added that it was time everyone realised the need to cultivate a good climate, not just through words but in action.

Anastassiades spoke after meeting with British Ambassador in Cyprus Peter Millet yesterday, a meeting he described as “extremely interesting”.

The meeting, he added, aimed at reconfirming Britain’s political will to see current negotiations lead to a solution to the Cyprus problem, which he said would originate from the two leaders “without interventions from third parties”.

Asked whether Britain’s seemed to have specific ideas on how to speed proceedings up, Anastassiades said their interest remained intense and active, without this meaning that they planned to intervene in any way, apart from offering advice and suggestions.

The Turkish Cypriot media yesterday had a completely different take on Talat’s statements in Strasburg, which some described as a “historical speech”.

Turkish Cypriot daily Afrika also criticised the fact that Talat “spoke in an empty conference hall”, while the Europeans who invited him lacked politeness and interest by not bothering to go and listen to his speech.




Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2008
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Panel of experts to help talks team

PRESIDENT Demetris Christofias plans to reinforce the Greek Cypriot side’s negotiation team by appointing a committee of experts to support his efforts in the Cyprus problem.

According to Government Spokesman Stefanos Stefanou, the committee will include experts from Cyprus and abroad, and specialists on European laws and regulations.

“when you are discussing an issue as complex as the Cyprus problem, apart from the political knowledge and political dealings, you need the support of expert knowledge,” said Stefanou.

“Apart from the negotiating team that accompanies the President of the Republic during the talks, there is also the Cyprus Problem Team, which I would say prepares the President and his team during the negotiations.”

But, he added, Christofias is aware that it requires more specialised knowledge on specific issues, constitutional and others, which need expert knowledge. “We need to be much more specific and substantial during the talks. We also need expert knowledge from the EU on how to handle such issues,” said Stefanou.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: With thanks to repulsewarrior for having found my blog Reply with quote

stavrizatz wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:
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While the United Nations, United States and Britain now fall all over themselves to appoint 'special representatives' to assist the Cypriots find a solution to their problems, can this process stand any chance of success when the problem itself has been reduced from being an issue of brutal invasion and of the continuing occupation of the sovereign territory of a tiny country by a former regional empire, and is presented instead as a problem between the two communities on Cyprus which they can resolve through intercommunal dialogue?

How many of the international press articles written analysing the problems of Cyprus ever present the story how that 'problem' has been massaged through many years of foreign interference into now being defined as a problem between two communities on the island?

How many of the international press reports on the Cyprus problem clarify how Turkey's role has been reduced from being that of an invading aggressor who has imported hundreds of thousands of its settlers whom it seeks to allow to vote in any referendum on the future of the island, into one of simply whether it 'recognises' the Government of Cyprus and allows Cyprus ships and aircraft to use its territory ?

Will any PHD students in the field of International Politics of Reconciliation choose to investigate what stories there have been in the 60 years of international media coverage about the Cyprus problem which investigate or describe Turkey's policies from the September 1956 events in Istanbul up to current Turkish policy, which many would argue has been solely aimed at destroying the 'reluctant' Republic in Cyprus? Will there be any studies of how Turkish agents on the island have been instrumental in deliberately creating incidents leading to the creation of its own vassal state? What happened to 'self-determination'?

Many will have noted, but few have commented, about Turkey's threats of violence in Cyprus and other abuses of the Republic's sovereignty during the process of the island's bid to join the EU. Having failed to blackmail the EU into not accepting Cyprus' entry, it belatedly jumped onto the bandwagon of trying to influence the island's EU accession in order to safeguard its own interests and promote it's own accession.

Turkey sought to, and succeeded at adversely influencing the content of the UN's Annan Plan in order to maximise the role of the statelet it had created in 'northern' Cyprus, to the extent that the majority population on the island voted against the plan. Through those means, and its blatant propaganda after the Annan Plan was rejected, it still insists the Greek Cypriots (or failing them, then at least the rest of the world) should accept 'the realities' it created in Cyprus.

http://aspectsofreality.blogspot.com/2008/09/ergenekon-murders-in-cyprus-linked-to.html


an interesting blog which i think you might like to read, stav...


I couldn't put it any better...exactly what frustrates me. Thanks RW



I was particularly honoured to read the comment by repulsewarrior, given his long-standing commitment to peace and reconciliation on Cyprus, on one of the last entries on my blog and I thank him for choosing to also provide those writings with the air of publicity on this forum. Thanks also to stavrizatz for having taken the time to look at my pages, and for his comments here.

Having been a member of this forum, as well as of the cyprusforum for some years, I must admit to have looked-in at both locations on a very occasional basis, but to have chosen to remain a read-only observer of the many topics and discussions contained within both fora.

I did not unfortunately have a camera on the occasion when Lord Hannay addressed a specially convened meeting of the Association for Cypriot Greek and Turkish Affairs at the London School of Economics (I think it was way back in 2002, at the start of the then-new interest by him as UK Special Representative for Cyprus) where he urged increased activism on the part of Turkish Cypriots in favour of rapprochement efforts, and during which I suggested the creation of internet-borne channels of communication in efforts to produce improved communication between the two communities.

By way of introduction I should therefore say that I am a Kyrenian whose family left during the invasion in 1974 (though I was in England studying at that time, rather than in Cyprus)... whose family has always been involved in 'the media' ... I found myself by the mid-80's, after the immediate disruption to family life from the invasion had been somewhat 'sorted out' ... becoming angry at the lack of any progress towards a solution ... and thus became a voluntary 'community activist' via London's Cypriot Community Centre at Theatro Technis as one of few apparent avenues of 'doing something about it'.

My own methodology and 'tool of analysis' has been the use of 'video recordings' of events associated with London-based efforts to engender rapprochement (at a time when that was impossible in Cyprus) ... on the premise that what every speaker at various events had to say was important and should be recorded out of respect for the views of people who were being bold enough to speak in favour of rapprochement, and in order to enable such views to 'not be lost'.

I therefore have a considerable archive of such recordings, made over quite a few years, which coincided with the advent of the "Women Walk Home" movement, and I have the only recording of President Vasiliou's "Love offensive" speech in London ... and of many meetings in the few years immediately following... some of which are in process of being released onto Video On Demand facilities on the web.

All this is mentioned in order to say that although I have not written much on this (or other fora), I am a person who has carefully listened, and re-listened to very many views being expressed, verbally (in a culture that better expresses itself verbally, than in writing) and in writings from the entire spectrum of the politics of Cyprus ... from academics, politicians, journalists and laymen ... and somewhat like repulsewarrior has done with the many posts he has made within this thread, I have spent hours and hours collecting and archiving many of the newspaper articles, but also much of what I could record of the output by CyBC from about 2002 onwards ... with lapses during periods when things just went quiet. or when I just missed things.

My reasoning in doing so was my own effort to learn about something which is a major part of my identity as a Cypriot, but also to try to understand what has been going on, from as many perspectives as possible.

A supplementary reason was my own perception of a need to look at the totality in order to then try to step aside objectively, as any good social scientist should be able to do, to look at that totality of information in order to TRY to see what is missing ... in order to see what that 'something' is, which if introduced into the situation, could perhaps be a key factor, and which if properly handled by all involved (much though that is a tall order) might make a difference and help contribute to a breakthrough, and contribute that certain something which the French would call 'je ne se qua' ... that is what motivates me.

It is perhaps therefore an appropriate time for me now to make a first contribution to this forum by stating that in the recording I made (and placed on the web at Google video) of the debate about Cyprus at the Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly on October 1st .... (and which video to my knowledge is not publicly available elsewhere) ... are contained some pivotal arguments which I believe Cyprus has needed for some time to be expressed by informed 'outsiders'.

Lets see how the 'how it is handled' from here progresses into the future.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4662851023561262099&hl=en
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank-you grokked, welcome (back).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Verbatim texts of CoE Debate on Cyprus Reply with quote

repulsewarrior wrote:
thank-you grokked, welcome (back).


Thank you again repulsewarrior.

As a supplementary, hereby links to the verbatim texts of the Cyprus debate at the Council of Europe, provided in English at the PACE website:

Verbatim text of proceeidngs on 30th September, with the section of Presient Christofias' speech and QnA, at the very end of the morning session:
http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/Documents/Records/2008/E/0809301000E.htm

Verbatim text of the proceedings on 1st October . speech by Turkish Cypriot leader, Mehmet Ali Talat, of the Report by the Rapporteur on Cyprus, and comments by the legal committee, and all other speeches:

http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/Documents/Records/2008/E/0810011000E.htm

Report by Political Affairs Committee
Rapporteur: Mr Joachim HÖRSTER, Germany, Group of the European
People's Party
DOCUMENT 11699:
12 September 2008 - Situation in Cyprus

http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/Documents/WorkingDocs/Doc08/EDOC11699.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In a sign of the importance the international community has vested in the process, heavyweights have started to weigh in. Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa and former Algerian Foreign Minister Lakhdar Brahimi will be in Cyprus on October 8-9.


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"It's a reminder that a solution has a wider influence in the region and that for the sake of peace we have to be more flexible," said Ozdil Nami, senior adviser to Talat.


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"I can't say I'm pessimistic, we have just started ... I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic even though I get frustrated too sometimes, it's natural.",
said President Christofias.


http://www.iht.com/articles/reuters/2008/10/06/europe/OUKWD-UK-CYPRUS-TALKS.php
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